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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1860 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1980 times:

What is your stations local policy of closing the ramp? Ours a JFK is definitely inadequate because two guys got struck by lightning on Thursday before they decided to shut it down.


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User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1119 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

At ORD the policy is ground strikes within airport boundaries and that is stretched,it is up to the duty managers at the airlines,they don't want to shut things down,they are supposed to turn on lights on top of the terminals,C concourse and H/K concourse,a lot of times people will say "screw it,this job isn't worth getting killed over"and head inside before the lights come on,every union I have been in has advised us when you see ground strikes within the field don't wait for the lights,use your best judgement and go inside.

User currently offlineAogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 935 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1960 times:

Ours calls for closure if lightining is within 5 miles of the airport. Actually getting mgmt to follow thru on that is nearly impossible, but I tell all the rampers myself to get inside. I refuse to see someone get hurt or killed before they get serious about the issue.

Are those two guys alright?


User currently offlineAmtrosie From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1935 times:

Good question!
I personally have had a few close calls, and have instructed anyone servicing my plane to get out if it is between 3 and 5 miles away. That being said, it ultimately comes down to the individuals on the ramp.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1860 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

Quoting Aogdesk (Reply 2):
Are those two guys alright?

They came back to work today.



The only valid opinions are those based in facts
User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1119 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

AOGdesk..that's what happens at ORD,when I was in the SOC at an airline the duty manager was reluctant to pull the plug before the other big airline did,folks would be calling in on their radios telling about lightning strikes even starting brush fires,like I said before use your best judgement and CYA.

User currently offlineBri2k1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 988 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

At DEN, at least, on the (rather expansive) UA ramp area, no chances are taken. I can only speak as a passenger, but it seems (from many experiences) that any strikes in the near vicinity are cause to shut down the entire ramp. I've been inconvenienced by it many times, but as all professional aviators realize, safety is the #1 most important thing in aviation, and I've always 'suffered' in silence. Much better I'm a few minutes later to my destination than anyone suffers injury or, God forbid, death.


Position and hold
User currently offlineR311music From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

At WN, if lightning strike is within three miles of the airport, they close the ramp.


confusing use of time
User currently offlineJspitfire From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 308 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1699 times:

At YVR, lightning within 5 miles = fueling stops, and within 3 miles = ramp closes.

Jason


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

How is Info Conveyed.Is it a Circular or by Telephone.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1681 times:

I believe MIA closes its ramp when there is lightning. Last week that cause my flight to leave 3 hours late.

MB


User currently offlineRNOcommctr From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 827 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

At RNO, we never completely close the ramp, but we do suspend all fueling operations if we have lightning within 5 miles of the airport. I work in Communications and we call all the FBO's and fuelers, plus we do a ringdown on a phone that goes into all the airline operations areas. We also do text messages to groups of airport management in case they get calls about why flights were delayed.

Operations has a gadget to determine lightning distance, but normally the determination is made by known landmarks around the airport. The tower also assists Operations in reporting nearby lightning strikes and making estimates of distance.



I'm sorry, ma'am, I don't work for the airline.
User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1503 times:

we have a lightning detector in the tower, thing that at 5 miles it turns yellow and at 3 miles its red. when its red, then its up to the judegement of the tower lead and manager on duty. if its storming outside and lightning strikes are obvious then theyll close it down. if it's a blue sky day and the box goes red, they dont.


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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

BIL, AFAIK, doesn't have a policy. When we think it's close enough...we get our arses back inside. We got chewed out by Dispatch the other night because we wouldn't load a flight untill the storm had passed and it made the flight 15 minutes late....  talktothehand 

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

Last night there was Lightening in the Skies.With light rain at BOM.

Is there any Precautions of using Cellphones during a Thunderstorm.

regds
MEL



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