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User currently offlineChris28_17 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1439 posts, RR: 10
Posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2436 times:


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check out the nose gear door, it says "ETOPS"

how can a 732 be qualified as ETOPS?

just curious, i didnt realize these planes had the range.


CHRIS

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User currently offlineBuzz From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 697 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

Hi Chris 28, Buzz here. Among other things at work i teach an ETOPS class for other mechanics.
How can a "Thunder Guppy" become ETOPS? well, first you fly it more than an hour from any airport you can land at. According to the FAR's you're in ETOPS territory then.
Besides, how could they get 737's out to the Islands unless they had the range? UAL's original batch of 737's would only carry a few hours of fuel, small center bladder tank (or 2 ). Later they made the center tank integral which tripled it's fuel capacity. I hear rumor of a cargo pit fuel tank also, we had some 727's with them installed.
But you have do carry more than just extra fuel and a couple more radios. You have to have your maintenance program set up to track the oil consumption, and have a way to prevent easy mistakes from causing in flight emergencies. And then there are critical systems that get different treatment after you fix them.
Most of our ETOPS diversions are coused by sick passengers. Maybe we should give them a once-over inspection before they get to fly? (grin)
g'day


User currently offlineChris28_17 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1439 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

i was thinking in order to be qualified ETOPS there had to be a 3-hour range from any airport...

thats prolly where i sckrewed up. Thanks!



CHRIS


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

I read an article some while ago. I think Aloha flies these 737 from Hawaii to LA or something. In order to do this, the aircraft seemed to have ETOPS-qualification.

Ivan



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User currently offlineKonaB777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2276 times:

Aloha flies the 737-200 ETOPS from Honolulu to Christmas Island, Johnston, Midway, and other islands in the mid Pacific. Aloha flies 737-700s across the eastern Pacific from HNL, OGG, KOA to LAS, OAK, & SNA.

User currently offlineStallspeed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days ago) and read 2251 times:

The ETOPS is to merely remind the passengers: Engines Turn Or People Swim.  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineBio15 From Colombia, joined Mar 2001, 1089 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2237 times:

Excuse me for my ignorance, but what is ETOPS??

User currently offlineVIflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2215 times:

Extended Twin engine OPerationS=ETOPS


I reject your reality and subsitute my own
User currently offlineSkwpilot From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 60 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

Just as a side note: only the latest generation 737s (600-900 series) have the range the travel from the mainland to Hawaii with the use of only it's own fuel cells. The older aircraft are inter-island aircraft which are sometimes ETOPS capable, but still have a range too short. These aircraft get to Hawaii by use of temporary fuel cells which are anchored into the passenger cabin and plumbed into the Center Fuel Tank. The aircraft is operated on a ferry permit and is not allowed to carry revenue pax. There is a great article about this sort of operation in the latest "Airways" magazine which is interesting. The particular article is referencing Hawaiian 717's, but the concept is the same.

Take care-

Skwpilot


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2209 times:

Whoops. I was wrong. Sorry.

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

I think the Aloha 732 is 120min rated (may be 90)

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