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Marshalling Signals - Differences.  
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5629 times:



Is there a difference in the Types of Marshalling Signals approved by FAA & CAA/JAA.
What Equipment code.
Worldwide.
regds
MEL


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User currently offlineBri2k1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 988 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5617 times:

In the GA world, I have seen dozens of different methods of accomplishing the same thing. Some FBOs have been very professional, using lighted batons at night and the familiar airline-style hand signals. Others have used more of a point-and-poke method. In general, it's pretty easy to figure out what they want you to do, and even easier to figure out if you're not doing it -- they can get very excited in a hurry.

I've seen different airlines at the same airport use different signals. There is a list in the AIM of so-called "approved International" hand signals, but some or all of them appear to be modified according to a specific airline's SOPs.



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User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5594 times:

Minor differences occour, however as posted, its pretty obvious to the pilot what i'm asking and even clearer when i want them to stop haha!


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5585 times:

Any Links on the Net Depicting the Signs used by FAA & CAA.
I found this one.
http://www.cafes.net/thacap/Marshalling_files/frame.htm
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineBri2k1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 988 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5576 times:

Here's one from the AIM:

http://www.faa.gov/ATPubs/AIM/Chap4/aim0403.html

Scroll down to section 4-3-25. It's pretty generic though.



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5538 times:

I have noticed, as a private pilot, several FBO employees cross their hands into an "X" shape while marshalling me...I usually talk to them afterwards about the proper signals  Smile . When I was an FBO employee (and I believe the AIM concurs on this matter  Wink )I was taught that that is the "emergency stop" signal. I was taught that the stop signal was to hold one's hands/light wands straight up.

The emergency stop signal should signal an immediate stop is imperative, along with an immediate shutdown, which can result in, for example, powerplants being shut down without checklists being followed, and/or a lurching stop.



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User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5527 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 5):
I have noticed, as a private pilot, several FBO employees cross their hands into an "X" shape while marshalling me...I usually talk to them afterwards about the proper signals . When I was an FBO employee (and I believe the AIM concurs on this matter )I was taught that that is the "emergency stop" signal. I was taught that the stop signal was to hold one's hands/light wands straight up.

The emergency stop signal should signal an immediate stop is imperative, along with an immediate shutdown, which can result in, for example, powerplants being shut down without checklists being followed, and/or a lurching stop.

The signal to stop an aircraft is to raise the hands above the head and cross them in an X. The same when controlling a Tug. Clearly indicate to the driver the above signal and he'll bring the aircraft to a stop.



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User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5506 times:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Aircraft_marshalling_signals.jpg

WrenchBender



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5498 times:

Quoting Bri2k1 (Reply 4):
Here's one from the AIM:

http://www.faa.gov/ATPubs/AIM/Chap4/aim0403.html

Scroll down to section 4-3-25. It's pretty generic though.

Wow, the ground marshallng signals in the AIM is much smaller than it used to be (circa early 1990's!). Looks like I may now be wrong on the stop signal...  Sad



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5408 times:

Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 7):

Nice Display.

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 5):
I was taught that that is the "emergency stop" signal. I was taught that the stop signal was to hold one's hands/light wands straight up.

Not for Night ops using Marshalling Torches.

regds
MEL



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