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Worst Routing Ever  
User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2999 times:
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I challenge anyone to find an example of stranger routing than this:



Dispatchers: Actually re-routing aircraft in bizzare fashion just to win the contest doesn't count. OPNL, I'm looking in your direction....  Wink




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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2987 times:

What on earth can cause a routing like that? I know thunderstorms can get in the way, but that seems pretty outrageous.


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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

How about this one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/ShyFlyer/flight_track_map.gif


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2977 times:
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Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 2):
How about this one:

Oh man, that's a great one...  bigthumbsup 

What regstration number was it?




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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 3):
What regstration number was it?

N314AV. I believe it belongs to some sort of photo-mapping or survey outfit.


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2943 times:
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Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 4):
N314AV. I believe it belongs to some sort of photo-mapping or survey outfit.

Sure enough...





Though, in terms of actual IFR routing, aerial mapping is about as kosher as:






 Wink




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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2525 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 1):
What on earth can cause a routing like that? I know thunderstorms can get in the way, but that seems pretty outrageous.

Well look at the past flight times... some as short as 14 minutes. The strange routing is probably because the airports are so close, having the plane fly direct to destination would cause a headache to both pilots and controllers...

Quick story...

The other day a Netjets flight launched off 4L at EWR enroute to TEB... TEB is 11NM from EWR heading 041 (so basically a pilot can take off 4L at EWR and will overly fly TEB without touching the controls). As soon as the controllers at TEB saw the flight pop up on the scope they tried calling NY departure to get the EJA flight a straight in for runway 1 at TEB... Unfortunately the flight was being vectored around for the ILS to 6 before they could get the message through....

If the plane took off 4L at EWR and landed 1 at TEB, the entire flight would probably be less than a minute... When the plane landed the pilots told the controllers they were happy they didn't get it because they wouldn't have even had time to run the checklists  Smile


User currently offlineOnetogo From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2874 times:

SFO-SFO joyride?

http://www.bostonartcc.net/albums/misc/ual9827_001.jpg

[Edited 2006-09-05 04:20:00]

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Quoting Onetogo (Reply 7):
SFO-SFO joyride?

Doe UAL still have their big SFO MX operation? If so, this is probably a testhop...


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31660 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 4):
believe it belongs to some sort of photo-mapping or survey outfit.

Now that makes sense  Smile
Tell me about Flightaware.
Does it cover Worldwide.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineNonfirm From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

Quoting Onetogo (Reply 7):
SFO-SFO joyride?

I'am not sure about United but we use 9000 flt number for repositioning flt's and maintenance check flt's.It looks like a maint flt. airplane 


User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 806 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

Quoting Onetogo (Reply 7):
SFO-SFO joyride?



Quoting Nonfirm (Reply 10):
I'am not sure about United but we use 9000 flt number for repositioning flt's and maintenance check flt's.It looks like a maint flt.

I cant argue with that Big grin

I was gonna say some sort of emergency so it had to return...............


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2645 times:
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Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 9):
Tell me about Flightaware.
Does it cover Worldwide.

Flightaware (unfortunately) only covers the US and Canada. It's an excellent site, though. Just yesterday, they introduced a wonderful feature that allows you to see how many aircraft of each type are aloft at any given moment:

http://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype

I find this feature to be incredibly addictive. I've been keeping a window open, watching for odd aircraft types, and hoping they're flying into one of my local airports. Now I just need a decent camera so I can go record them for future "Odd Aircraft" threads...

*EDIT* - Right now, there's a Grumman TBM Avenger cruising from Florida to Arkansas at FL280.



2H4




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User currently offlineOnetogo From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2623 times:

Quoting Nonfirm (Reply 10):
I'am not sure about United but we use 9000 flt number for repositioning flt's and maintenance check flt's

As well as aerobatic flights! They were doing Chandelles and Lazy 8's in the 757!!

Just kidding.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2620 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 12):
Flightaware (unfortunately) only covers the US and Canada.

It also works with a handful of Transatlantic flights, or at least I can get a nice flightplan from there (except for the precise NAT information when flying in a NAT).  Wink


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

Quoting Onetogo (Reply 13):
As well as aerobatic flights! They were doing Chandelles and Lazy 8's in the 757!!

I haven't started my commercial yet (although I've taken the ground school for it  Wink ), but as I understand it, when these maneuvers are properly executed, they are not considered aerobatic (bank angle <70 deg, pitch attitude < 30 deg) ?



Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

May find it hard to beat this one  Smile

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AIR1

It seems to get a bit confused when the flight starts / ends outside the US!


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Thread starter):
Dispatchers: Actually re-routing aircraft in bizzare fashion just to win the contest doesn't count. OPNL, I'm looking in your direction....

I've seen so many bizzare ones in the last 20-25 years I wouldn't even know where to begin. What most of them have in common was that a line/area of thunderstorms was between origin and destination. If the weather is lined up parallel to the normal route between origin and destination, all that's usually needed are deviations, but the more the weather goes perpendicular to the normal route between origin and destination, the worse the re-roiute is.

As far as long re-routes go, traffic out of Florida for MDW usually comes up over ATL and SDF (IIU), but when there's weather blocking that route, it's not at all unusual to get routed out west via Tallahassee (SZW) and STL and then north. Sometimes SZW to SGF or MCI before they turn you back towards MDW.

On the short ones, it's also pretty ugly sometimes. I recall a SAT-DAL flight that had to go all the way west to INK before he could get around the east-west line that was cutting Texas in half. MSY-DAL via INK is another one...


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