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Typical Cargo On Cargo Planes  
User currently offlineHKA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 148 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4236 times:

Just curious what type of cargo do cargo/freight planes typically carry ??

One thing that comes to mind is seafood.

Thanks.

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User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4222 times:

Look in the dictionary and everything in there that doesn't explode or is extremely flammable is shipped on cargo planes. I once had to FedEx 100 lbs of a certain type of sand from Ohio to Mexico.

User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4219 times:

Flowers, fish, electronics, import foods, mail, dead bodies, etc.

User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4689 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4215 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 1):
Look in the dictionary and everything in there that doesn't explode or is extremely flammable is shipped on cargo planes.

The fuel on the plane can take care of that... tapedshut 


To add a few items: young chicken, time-sensitve spare parts, just about everything with a high value...



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3085 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4202 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 1):
Look in the dictionary and everything in there that doesn't explode or is extremely flammable is shipped on cargo planes.

 no  We ship fuel (automotive, heating and aircraft types) and explosive gas( Propane) all the time with our freighters. Plus food, building materials, household goods. etc. You name it we have shipped it.

GS



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 4128 times:

Out here its mainly Cargo comprising of sea food,Electronics,Mail.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineShowerOfSparks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4114 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 1):
Look in the dictionary and everything in there that doesn't explode or is extremely flammable is shipped on cargo planes.

What makes you think that such material is not carried on cargo planes?


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4065 times:

Quoting ShowerOfSparks (Reply 6):
Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 1):
Look in the dictionary and everything in there that doesn't explode or is extremely flammable is shipped on cargo planes.

What makes you think that such material is not carried on cargo planes?

If the DGR clears it.It goes.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4059 times:

Quoting ShowerOfSparks (Reply 6):
What makes you think that such material is not carried on cargo planes?

he uses typical in the question. I would not regard anything that needs a special permit or special permission as typical. If the right papers are in order you can transport just about anything. Why is it that some people here insist on trying to provoke arguments?


User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3986 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 8):
Why is it that some people here insist on trying to provoke arguments?

Hey, no worries man. I don't think anyone was trying to start an argument. Big grin

I know at FedEx we used to ship just about everything. Anything you can think of has probably been shipped at some point through air cargo. We even had a time-sensitive box of medicinal samples that had to get overseas overnight. Turned out they were vials of sperm. Big grin

Point being, like someone else said, if you have the right papers, have things cleared with customs, and have the shipping company's okay, you can ship just about anything that'll fit.  yes 



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3977 times:



User currently offline777WT From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 877 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

Here's one unique shipment that was done recently, I can't remember what state it was shipped to or from but I do know how it was done:

An marine aquarium place wanted to ship a whale from one state to another state in the USA. FedEx said they can't do it, or they wanted too much.
UPS said they can, so UPS took one of their 747's, modified the cargo hold to hold a whale in water.
Loaded the whale in it along with a few vets.
Flew it to the airport at a slow rate of climb and descent, then had 2 'Circles of Stars' drivers (no accident since being employed by UPS for over 20 or 25 years) drive the truck from the airport to the aquarium with one controlling the front and another from the rear. That has to be one really long truck.


User currently offlineJetMech From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 2699 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3925 times:

I have personally seen all of the following on freighters; horses, jet engines, cars, trucks, helicopters, heavy machinery, rowing skulls, electronics, general goods and much more. I remember overhearing some flight crew talking about how some of their colleagues flew a quantity of dynamite or TNT. Apparently, this was encased in much dry ice to lower the risk??.

The only things that won't be flown are individual items that are too large to fit, or too heavy to lift off the ground.

[Edited 2006-09-21 10:08:20]

[Edited 2006-09-21 10:08:40]


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3924 times:

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 9):
We even had a time-sensitive box of medicinal samples that had to get overseas overnight. Turned out they were vials of sperm

What about Blood samples.Is there a special Restriction on them.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineGib From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3909 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
What about Blood samples.Is there a special Restriction on them.

I've been out of the loop for many years, but I'd guess that goes up front, as do any and all organ donor parts. I have delivered MANY 'pieces & parts' to PIC's.

Anyway, seafood, flowers, and as someone before said....chickens, roosters, baby rabbits and ducks at Easter, etc., etc.... Man, it's really unlimited.


User currently offlineGib From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3906 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
What about Blood samples.Is there a special Restriction on them.

Allow me to rephrase, as I didn't READ the question. (age)

This, I do not know!


User currently offline777WT From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 877 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3898 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
What about Blood samples.Is there a special Restriction on them.

Yes there is, it's a biohazard item. Same with disposed needles, medical office supplies waste.


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3873 times:

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User currently offlineYHMYYZspotter From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3871 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 17):
don't forget satellites

Ahh you beat me to it.  Smile


User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3861 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
What about Blood samples.Is there a special Restriction on them.

Yeah, there are usually restrictions and a lot of paperwork that follow anything related to medicine or bodily fluids.

However, a lot of companies here in the states operate small twin engine aircraft that do nothing but fly samples around the nation. Every now and then they'll be called to transport some high-value bank statements or the like, but most carry blood samples, medicine, and other high-value time-sensitive items. They do this to bypass having to deal with a major shipping company and the charges associated with it, especially when they're shipping 2-3 loads a day.

Its a good job to rack up hours as well.  Big grin



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User currently offlineFuturecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3849 times:

I know someone who flies 747F's for NW. He says coming out of Asia the a/c is usually full of clothing.

User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3835 times:

Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 20):
He says coming out of Asia the a/c is usually full of clothing.

No rubber dog sh** out of Hong Kong?  Big grin





Sorry....had to jump on the chance to work some Navy magic.  yes 



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User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3802 times:

We fly anything that's legal. IATA/ICAO DG regs list items that are prohibited from carriage by air and even some of these MAY be carried with prior exemptions. Nothing is carried outside of the cargo compartments. The crew handles no cargo. Some cargo may have a accompanying courier. Having said that if it's legal and fits, it's been carried.

User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3663 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3789 times:
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Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 19):
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
What about Blood samples.Is there a special Restriction on them.

Yeah, there are usually restrictions and a lot of paperwork that follow anything related to medicine or bodily fluids.

Not if they are marked non-infectious. We carry blood samples from Okinawa several times a week. All we do is go to Public Health and show them the "Non-Infectious/Non-Hazardous" statement, which is always listed on the invoice, and it gets released. It is only considered a DG because the blood samples are packed with dry ice. There is no additional paperwork included in the document pouch that comes with the airwaybill. We always open the docs pouch since that is where the invoice with the statement is located.

As for medicine, we transport a lot of this as well, and no special paperwork necessary unless it is marked as DEA restricted. Only then does it need to be inspected and stamped off by Customs.


User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3773 times:

Quoting Ha763 (Reply 23):

Unless FedEx has changed something in the recent years, there was always paperwork involved with shipping any type of medicinal substance, more specifically the temp. controlled ones. It always went through, but for the international flights it took a lot more documentation.

That's good to hear that yours puts it through pretty fast.



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25 FlyboySMF2GFK : We ship sheet music and software via FedEx and UPS air every day.
26 GQfluffy : No offense or anything, but I just wonder if maybe you were thinking commercial flights instead of cargo flights. There are many more restrictions on
27 HAWK21M : What about Crew risks in case of Bad packaging or leak.Any safeguards. regds MEL
28 CosmicCruiser : Hawk21m, That holds true for any and all DG. It's taken very seriously.
29 Airfoilsguy : I was thinking cargo. I remember when my job required me shipping alot through FedEx (2000lbs a day) that there were alot of things I could not ship
30 Fxra : While at FedEx, i remember seeing so much stuff I never imagined would get ona plane. FOr instance.. ANd entire Landing gear assembly for a B767, John
31 HAWK21M : True.Agreed.I was referring to What action by crew in case of Leak,can lead to Infections. Are the Crew Quarintined. regds MEL
32 777WT : That got to be a PITA just for a sailboat mast. Remove the windshield screws, remove the sealant, put sailboat mast in it. Re-install windshield with
33 CosmicCruiser : Sorry I was on a trip and just got to see this. For one, we do not go back and investigate. If it's a fire warning you blow the bottles and land. If
34 Ha763 : Not really since we are only dealing with non-infectious substances and the only DG in the shipment is the dry ice. We get these shipments on pax pla
35 HAWK21M : What would be the Safeguard for the Loaders while a DG Shipment leaks. regds MEL
36 Ha763 : For the most part, any DG packed according to the IATA DGR should be more than strong enough to prevent damage/leakage. UN specific packaging is very
37 474218 : About twenty years ago I flew FC on an Eastern L-1011 MIA-LAX and the guy sitting beside me had a white box that read HUMAN HEART in red letters on a
38 HAWK21M : Agreed on the Transport safety.I was reffering to Incase a Package leaks & the Loader gets in contact with it.What medical issues arise. regds MEL
39 CosmicCruiser : If you want specifics I would say you need to get a DG specialist to addres this question. I, as a crewmember, for example, really wouldn't be involv
40 Post contains images CRJonBeez : that reminds me! i saw bull sperm on a UPS 752 once i've seen on C-5 Galaxy in SBN. it's incredible how much stuff fits in there. helicopters, hummer
41 HAWK21M : In fact I just did.As per them it involves Medical checks & Quarintine until its proved no spread. regds MEL
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