MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8552 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9511 times:
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5932 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9260 times:
Quoting 113312 (Reply 4): Depends upon weight, wind, and type of aircraft.
More than that. Depends on density altitude, crosswind component at takeoff, how the aircraft is loaded (in terms of where the CG is), and what type of takeoff the pilot is performing.
Note that the OP's picture is a Super Cub, which are, for the most part, extremely overpowered, however I'm sure being on floats erases most of the advantages
Also: it looks like the pilot is flying solo from the front seat(!). I thought Cubs had to be flown solo from the back seat due to CG considerations...
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SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 71 Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9234 times:
Quoting Bobster2 (Reply 8): You could probably use less water if it's only for the airplane.
1 gallon!
Here's how: Make a pair of V-shaped troughs fitted to the floats. Have a high-speed waterpump and distribution system. This system sprays water into the troughs just ahead of the floats, scavenges it from just behind them and redirects it to the next section just ahead. Repeat until airborne.
conducting ops in Gatun Lake and Manzanillo Bay Panama. When they took off out of Manzanillo Bay from the old Panagra ramp, they angled toward the opening in the rompeolas, the breakwater at the Caribbean end of the Panama Canal. The reason was takeoff distance. From the back of the bay straight toward the breakwater was (according to GoogleEarth) about 9500' and they were not sure they could clear the 6 - 8 foot high concrete barrier. Angling out toward the opening they had about 16000' The performance was even worse in Gatun Lake because it is fresh water - less buoyancy.
Manzanillo Bay has seen a lot of flying boat ops. I've seen pictures of Consolidated Commodores and Sikorsky S-38 and S-43 flying boats from Panam, Panagra and Uraba-Medellin Airways. There was at least one Commodore at the bottom of the bay. Never did see a picture of a Martin 130 or Boeing 314 there though.
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ElpinDAB From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 458 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9234 times:
I've flown an Aviat Husky on straight floats with 200hp (which is 50hp more than the Super Cub pictured here, but besides that, same wing and basically the same plane.) It had amazing performance....with 2 people and a full tank of gas, we lifted of the water within about 5 seconds of putting in full power. I don't know how many feet that would be though... (Much better performance than the 235hp Maule I've also flown). There's also a technique you can use called a confined area takeoff. With one of these, you step taxi around the lake until you apply full power to take off. Using this technique, you could probably take that Super Cub off on a lake that's so small it would scare you. (If you knew what you were doing, that is.)
Lehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 22 Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 9131 times:
Quoting David L (Reply 5): And that depends on whether you're taking off with or against the tide. Conveyor belt, anyone?
Would taking off in a river rapid mean your relative velocity to the water is zero?
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