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What Is This In The Delta MD-11 Cockpit?  
User currently offlineMD11Fanatic From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12191 times:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0136922/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0136921/L/

What is the screen mounted in between FMS CDUs? I've only see this in Delta MD-11 cockpits. Also, since the brake pressure and autobrake switches were moved up above this screen from their traditional position, the standby gauges are placed on the sides of CRT #1 and presumably #6 too.

Was it only the Delta MD-11 cockpits in this configuration? Who can shed some light on this little MD-11 mystery of mine?

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User currently offlineMohavewolfpup From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12190 times:

rumor around these parts is that it is for a game of pilot solitare or minesweeper, or asteroids!   j/k, I really don't know. would be curious to know also.

[Edited 2006-10-30 10:15:53]

User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 806 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 12165 times:

Looks like some sort of weather radar, but they are in the main PFD

User currently offlineTurkee From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 12143 times:

Looks like a video display for a camera that is probably looking down outside the cockpit door. There isn't a lot of interaction, just the three knobs. Contrast, on/off, and a selector switch if there is more than one camera?

That is my best guess.

[Edited 2006-10-30 12:33:18]

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 12130 times:

Looks like a weather radar to me, and in this shot, it looks like there's a Bendix logo underneath the screen.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0257277/L/

Now, I realize the weather radar data shows on the other panels, but perhaps Delta opted for an additional "standard" installation as a back-up?


User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12113 times:

Quoting Joffie (Reply 2):
Looks like some sort of weather radar, but they are in the main PFD

The wx radar display is on the ND(Nav Display) not the PFD


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12103 times:

Sure looks like the Traditional Weather Radar Screen,with On/Off/Standby, Mode & Brightness Knobs.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineMD11Fanatic From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12027 times:

That blows my mind why Delta felt it necessary to install an additional weather radar screen when no other carrier did. I've never seen a backup like this on any other MD-11 (or Delta plane for that matter.) What's also interesting is the additional backup TCAS and vertical speed indicator. Was Delta expecting those CRTs to blank out at will?

User currently offlineCALPilot From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 998 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 11972 times:

It's a weather radar, look at their B757, and 767's they did it to them too.

User currently offlineFxra From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 705 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 11530 times:

It is a WX radar, the Delta MD-11's had the extra one installed, for whatever reason. The former DAL airplanes that we operate at WOA have them.

jd



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User currently offlineMD11Fanatic From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11432 times:

So is it an entirely different weather radar in the nose or does it derive its data from the same source that the NAV display CRT does?

User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11425 times:

Quoting MD11Fanatic (Reply 10):
So is it an entirely different weather radar in the nose or does it derive its data from the same source that the NAV display CRT does?

Same ol one, same as in the 88, 76/75, 738, all of them. In all of those models, you can superimpose the weather on the ND in map mode, but you still have the CRT in the center- it contains the gain, tilt, brightness, etc knobs. Just because the -11 is all glass (same as the 738), it still has this.

As for the EVSI, I'm sure it's because DL doesn't (didn't) keep an extra supply of older analog VSI's w/o TCAS- plus if all of my displays blanked out, I wouldn't mind having that info.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineTimePilot From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11400 times:

Quoting Mohavewolfpup (Reply 1):
rumor around these parts is that it is for a game of pilot solitare or minesweeper, or asteroids!  

I'd guess Pong. The two dials on top would work well with it. The button on the right could be used to serve  Smile

Err, that is the screen we're talking about, right? The one above the throttles, between those two graphing calculator-looking things?


User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2534 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11272 times:

Yes, it is weather radar. Why? Because the DC-8 had one like that. That is why all DL 757/767 have them also. When the planes were ordered someone thought the cockpit should retain this and a couple of other redundant insruments to make the transition from the DC-8 easier.

User currently offlineNonfirm From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11164 times:

It looks like weather radar.  airplane 

User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 11042 times:

Is it this?


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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10997 times:

No, that's a standby PFD they have in the center, where the Wx radar should be.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlinePlanefreakaa From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10633 times:

it is the TCAS, traffic collision avoidance system

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