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Boarding/Deplaning Through Door 1R Or 2R?  
User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4321 times:

Is it normal ops to deplane through a door on the right side of the plane at some airports? If so where and please tell me what the biggest type of aircraft is that flies there.


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4311 times:

Very rare. Most right side doors are smaller the the doors on the left side as they are used for servicing only


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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4306 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
Very rare. Most right side doors are smaller the the doors on the left side as they are used for servicing only

The reason most airliners load from the left is because the cargo is loaded on the right. While a few airliners have smaller doors on the left it is far from most.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23058 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4282 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
Very rare. Most right side doors are smaller the the doors on the left side as they are used for servicing only

Does anything bigger than the CR9 have bigger doors on the left?



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User currently offlineFutureUALpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4282 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 3):
Does anything bigger than the CR9 have bigger doors on the left?

The MD-80 series does, IIRC.



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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4279 times:

MD-80 series does, correct.

I couldn't imagine the mess on the right side of the a/c, in terms of servicing.

Most aircraft fuel on the right side (save for the 767 and 777, etc), and all of their cargo bin doors are on the right- and oftentimes the catering is there too. Imagine having a jetway, fuel truck, k-loader, belt loader, and several tugs/trailers servicing one side of the aircraft. Heck, it gets busy on the right side as it is.

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User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1478 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4277 times:

Boeing 737 1L is bigger than 1R


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User currently offlinePennStation From United States of America, joined May 2006, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4261 times:

TWA had at least one gate at JFK with a jetway on the right side of the aircraft. I was aboard a TriStar that used this gate in 1986.

User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

Quoting PennStation (Reply 7):
TWA had at least one gate at JFK with a jetway on the right side of the aircraft.

Here's a pic of this jetway connected to a 747:


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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4014 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

The BEA Comet 4B that I flew from ORY to LHR on in 1969 had the main passenger door on the right hand side. The L1 door was a small servicing door. No good for jetways, but there weren't any then!

User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4184 times:

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 9):
The BEA Comet 4B that I flew from ORY to LHR on in 1969 had the main passenger door on the right hand side. The L1 door was a small servicing door. No good for jetways, but there weren't any then!

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User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4062 times:

The doors on the AC Right on the A320, B733,734,738 and B752 are all a bit smaller than those on the left. I should know, when I first started flying I would always hurt my head on leaning out of the RHS doors - took me most of a summer to remember to duck.  Smile

As everyone has already pointed out the servicing takes place on the right, and if you used steps instad of an airbridge to load on AC Right then there would be no space to do anything, especially on the 737.

Wasn't it the SUD Carvelle? that normally boarded from the right?

There is a shot of some SAA 747s with steps on the RHS taken on a refulling stop somewhere on the Database.

Phil
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User currently offlineWexCan From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 11):
The doors on the AC Right on the A320, B733,734,738 and B752 are all a bit smaller than those on the left.

Are you sure about the A320? I fly on A319s as cabin crew and the L and R doors all look the same size...


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4836 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

Most jet aircraft board from the Left. It was origionally due to tradition and is mostly these days due to cargo being loaded on the right and that the Left doors are sometimes larger and that the Left aisles are also usually wider.
There have been previous threads discussing this
http://www1.airliners.net/discussion...?searchid=90604&s=boarding#ID90604
http://www1.airliners.net/discussion...rchid=2986914&s=boarding#ID2986914
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User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3814 times:

Quoting WexCan (Reply 12):
Are you sure about the A320? I fly on A319s as cabin crew and the L and R doors all look the same size...

I can't remember now (since I've not flown since the end of October - damned seasonal contracts), but I think the R doors are slightly smaller, but I guess you would fly on that type more than me I would only get one A320 trip a month with about 13 757 trips  Smile

It should be intresting to note however that on the 752 the doors at L3 & R3 are the same size (since they are both emergency use only doors), and R1 is the smallest door on the aircraft (its also the nastiest to open).

Phil
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User currently offlineWexCan From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3805 times:

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 14):
I can't remember now (since I've not flown since the end of October - damned seasonal contracts), but I think the R doors are slightly smaller, but I guess you would fly on that type more than me I would only get one A320 trip a month with about 13 757 trips

From what I can see they're the same - we use 1R for Ambulifts and 2R for catering and unless they're a little bit smaller in width they're definitely the same height.

3L/R on the 752 are the doors hinged at the bottom aren't they? The ones that "fall out" so to speak? I've heard that the main pax doors on the 75 are quite difficult to open in any case compared to other aircraft - gives me a nice fuzzy feeling having simple doors to operate. Handle goes up, door slides to one side, simple lol.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3805 times:

On our B737s & B757s during the Rainy season.We use the RH Doors due to Rain water rushing in from the Left side.All Airlines use this procedure.
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User currently offlineWexCan From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3798 times:

Is that not difficult what with 1R on the 737 being smaller?

[Edited 2006-11-28 17:05:49]

User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1478 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 16):
On our B737s & B757s during the Rainy season.We use the RH Doors due to Rain water rushing in from the Left side.All Airlines use this procedure.
regds
MEL

Not her ein the US they don't. The doors on the right in the Boeing 737 are smaller, I'm 5'5" and I have to duck to go in and out.



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User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3778 times:

Quoting WexCan (Reply 15):

Right, like I said its been some time since I worked an Airbus. Abilifts would come to R1 and the catering would come to both RH doors.

Yup those 757 doors are hinged on the bottom, nice and simple to operate just lift the handle up and push the door out, the door drops out like a drawbridge. The normal entry service doors are awful (the UK CAA has now officially noted that these doors are overweight and dangerous, however nothing can be done about it). They don't have power assist for during normal ops and they are real hard for anyone to open, especially some of the girls.

I admit, those Airbus doors are great, but they also seem to make new crew nervous (since both the arming lever and door open lever move upward to disarm...).

1R on the 737-400 at least was always a bit tricky because of the curve of the fuselage, or was that 2R? I forget  Smile....

Phil
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User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1478 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 3760 times:

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 19):
1R on the 737-400

You are correct, 1R on ALL 737's is hard to close due to the curvature of the fuselage. I almost need to get a "running start" to close the door....I hate when it's left open.



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User currently offlineWexCan From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3753 times:

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 19):
I admit, those Airbus doors are great, but they also seem to make new crew nervous (since both the arming lever and door open lever move upward to disarm...).

Can understand that, but surely new crew should have a bit of sense to work out the arming lever is the small one and the opening lever is the big one? Or that the arming lever is (usually) yellow and the opening lever is (usually) orange.  Smile


User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3728 times:

Quoting WexCan (Reply 21):
Can understand that, but surely new crew should have a bit of sense to work out the arming lever is the small one and the opening lever is the big one? Or that the arming lever is (usually) yellow and the opening lever is (usually) orange.

Yeah but over here blowing a slide is the number one fear amongst new crews simply because they would get sacked. Yeah the arming lever is yellow and the opening handle is orange. The arming handle also has a plastic cover over the top and on some airlines birds actually has part of "ARMED" written across it (so when you push it down it makes the word armed on the door).

Mind you I suppose people are just afraid of the Airbus in general, most of the crews I flew with prefered the 757 because it felt tougher (the little bus really creaks and everything). I like it though, Mind you I'd like it if they stuck me on a tri-motor  Wink

Phil
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User currently offlineWexCan From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3723 times:

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 22):
(the little bus really creaks and everything)

I remember my first flight as A319 crew - I'm by no means a nervous flyer but it would have been nice if they told us the doors creaked so much. They did tell us about the "dog barking" sound pre-pushback though which was nice of them - I'd have been on the phone to the FD asap about a poor dog barking otherwise  Smile


User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3719 times:

Quoting WexCan (Reply 23):
remember my first flight as A319 crew - I'm by no means a nervous flyer but it would have been nice if they told us the doors creaked so much. They did tell us about the "dog barking" sound pre-pushback though which was nice of them - I'd have been on the phone to the FD asap about a poor dog barking otherwise

Well my first flight as crew we had a full compliment (the 5 + myself and another supernumary), the captain was on a check flight so I couldn't sit in there (there's only 6 jumpseats on the A320), I had to take a passenger seat. As we were heading out to the runway the guy infront of me reclined his seat - he got a shock when I calmly stood up and leaned over the back of his seat to say "could you put your seat back sir?". Anyway I remember the approach into RHO was very windy and I'm sat in an isle seat this time and boy those oveheads shake a lot - still had a laugh chatting to the woman in C.

They never told us about the creaking, shaking or even the PTU but I already knew about that since it comes up here once a month  Smile

Phil
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25 Post contains images HAWK21M : I meant All Airlines out here The Rains in BOM can be really bad at Times. On the Contarary 1L being Bigger is more Heavier than 1R on the B737. regd
26 WexCan : It may be heavier but what he's saying is that the shape of 1R makes it more difficult to close.
27 HAWK21M : How would the Shape differ on the B737,its just the Height. regds MEL
28 WNCrew : The FWD doors of the 737, contrary to what it may seem, do NOT sit exactly across from each other. The R1 door sits further up than the L1 door and i
29 CSDBA : I have been cabin crew for many years now and I can count the amount of times I have seen pax using doors on the right hand side of the aircraft on tw
30 Post contains images Andz : Ilha do Sal in the Cape Verde Islands, I have done this a couple of times myself, it's funny how approaching the aircraft from the "wrong" side under
31 HAWK21M : True.....However its lighter & easier to move according to Me. regds MEL
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