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User currently offlineSleekjet From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2049 posts, RR: 22
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 18547 times:

What do you call the drop-down display that reflects pertinent info to the pilot?


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User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 18547 times:

You talking about the Head's Up Display (HUD)?


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User currently offlineSleekjet From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2049 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 18540 times:

Yep, that's it. Many thanks.


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User currently offlineBAe146QT From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2006, 996 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 18539 times:

Are they actually "drop down", or are they painted in light on the windscreen from a fixed camera?


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User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 18556 times:

Drops down and the information is reflected onto it, see below.


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User currently offlineBAe146QT From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2006, 996 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 18535 times:

Cool - just like a fighter pilot then.

"BA114 Heavy, MiGs dispatched.Turning right to two seven zero and descending to 15000. Reporting a medical emergency since all my passengers are vomiting."

Heh-heh-heh.



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18521 times:
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Quoting Sleekjet (Thread starter):
What do you call the drop-down display that reflects pertinent info to the pilot?

The official term is "HGS", which stands for "Heads-up Guidance System".



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18556 times:
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Well, we may as well make this thread into a game, eh?

Identify THIS!



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User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 934 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18503 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 7):
Identify THIS!

Would that be some kind of spoilers?



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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 18498 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 7):
Well, we may as well make this thread into a game, eh?

Identify THIS!




2H4

Clearly it is a pigeon denial device (PDD). Everyone knows that bird droppings are murder on paint. When the aircraft is going to be parked for an extended period of time, the crew must remember to deploy these to keep the birds from landing on top of the fuselage. The slight increase in weight an complexity is made up for by the reduced cost in cleaning and painting. Boeing will include them as standard equipment on the 787. Airbus is scrambling to include them in the A380. And that is the real reason for the production delays. You can fit a lot of birds on top of one of those Airbuses.



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 18497 times:
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Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 8):
Would that be some kind of spoilers?

Yep! Can you identify the airplane?  eyebrow 



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 18497 times:
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Quoting Lowrider (Reply 9):
Clearly it is a pigeon denial device (PDD).

Well, you're both correct. This particular example is an STC, modifying the original PDD so that it may also serve an aerodynamic purpose.

Now let's see....who can identify the aircraft.....  scratchchin 


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User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 934 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 18484 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 10):
Can you identify the airplane?

No, unfortunately I don't know enough (or anything actually) about this system to tell what A/C that is.



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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 18479 times:
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Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 12):
No, unfortunately I don't know enough (or anything actually) about this system to tell what A/C that is.

That's a good sign, actually. It indicates your mind functions normally, and that you have something that resembles a life outside of aircraft photos and basement aircraft knowledge.....unlike some....uh....people I know.  angel 



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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 18472 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 11):
Now let's see....who can identify the aircraft

You got me, I just typed the first thing that came to mind. Having slaughtered my fair share of birds this week, that is what I thought of.



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User currently offlineOnetogo From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 18468 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 11):
Now let's see....who can identify the aircraft.....

A Bonanza, or Baron. Maybe?


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 18449 times:
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Quoting Onetogo (Reply 15):
A Bonanza, or Baron. Maybe?

Neither of those...notice the perspective/height.



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User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 934 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 18428 times:

Is it a high wing A/C?

I'm thinking about a Shorts 360.

[Edited 2006-11-12 03:41:00]


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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 18425 times:

I am going to guess some sort of three engined jet, such as a Falcon 50, 727, Yak, L1011, or something similar. I think is some sort of fence, vane, or VG.


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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 18406 times:
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Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 17):
Is it a high wing A/C?

Yes indeed. It is not a three-engine jet.

I'm heading out to the movies now, but will check back in afterward. Keep those educated guesses coming....  Smile



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User currently offlineAcabgd From Serbia, joined Jul 2005, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 18403 times:

Just a wild guess - bleed air holes for anti-ice protection on somethink like an ATR?


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User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 934 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 18399 times:

Quoting Acabgd (Reply 20):
ATR

I doubt it. The ATR's have a roundish fuselage, but this A/C's left side looks flat and vertical.



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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 18396 times:

Then I will go with some sort of spoiler. Flight or ground I can't say. Only problem is I am not sure if I am looking at a leading or trailing edge. Lack of visible control surface leads me to believe leading edge. Lack of ice protection makes me think trailing. Of course I am assuming the wing is intact here. How about a Casa 212?

Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 17):
I'm thinking about a Shorts 360

If so I would love to hear the reason for it. Its not like that aircraft needs more drag.



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User currently offlineMissedApproach From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 713 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 18382 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 10):
Yep! Can you identify the airplane?

The OV-10 Bronco uses spoilers like that. I remember because I built a 1:72 model of one. They would commonly use a two-tone gray paint scheme like that too.



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User currently offline787atPAE From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 143 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 18376 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 10):
Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 8):
Would that be some kind of spoilers?

Yep! Can you identify the airplane?

These are spoilers? How are they extended/retracted? My first guess would be cable system, although it would be pretty cool to see hydraulic mini-actuators.  Big grin

In your picture, it looks like the trailing edge of a wing in the foreground, and the tapered rear fuselage in the background (with lots of rivets). It reminds me of the planes that were built back in the golden days, when we as engineers, pilots, etc, still were trying to figure out how aerodynamics worked.


25 Post contains images 2H4 : .....And MissedApproach gets it! Well done! Here's the uncropped photo: ....Or, in this case, disregarding aerodynamics altogether, and simply engine
26 Post contains images 2H4 : Ok, here are a couple more interesting ones: 2H4
27 Post contains links HAWK21M : http://www.ov-10bronco.net/ Interesting link. regds MEL
28 Lehpron : At first glance, looked to me like like one of those human powered subs designed by MIT grads. That guy in the background, is he sitting, standing, b
29 2H4 : I don't know...looks like he's sitting, facing the spoilers... 2H4
30 Lowrider : For the first one, I am going to go with a Canadair CL-415
31 Post contains images 2H4 : Well done, Lowrider! It is indeed a CL-415: Score so far MissedApproach - 1 Lowrider - 1 While you're chewing on that second one, here's another to w
32 Kaddyuk : Jetstream 31?
33 2H4 : Nope....not a Jetstream... 2H4
34 Lowrider : I was going to say Lockheed Jetstar, but I don't think the fuselage is wide enough.
35 Post contains images 2H4 : The Jetstar is a good guess, though....the side windows are very similar. The Jetstar's side cockpit windows are quite distinctive, though. I think y
36 Lowrider : It looks so close to a Metro/Merlin, but the cockpit isn't quite right either. This one is driving me insane.
37 2H4 : It'll dawn on you eventually. For the record, it's not some obscure French military experiment, or anything....it's an airplane we all know and love.
38 Speedracer1407 : Looks to me like an Embraer. But the big splotchy thing behind the door, presumably part of a missing wing structure, looks too far forward to be an E
39 Speedracer1407 : Wait wait. I take that back. Beech 2000 starship. Still, though, that splotch, if it is indeed a hole or blank spot where the wing should be, is too f
40 2H4 : Another excellent guess, but it's not an Embraer. The Embraers have a taller fuselage than this bird, and a more pronounced cockpit window droop. 2H4
41 Post contains images 2H4 : And Speedracer1407 nails it! Cropped Pic Original Pic The Entire Starship Current Score MissedApproach - 1 Lowrider - 1 Speedracer1407 - 1 More to fo
42 Speedracer1407 : --2H4, for some reason i can't get this thing to quote you properly. It insists on quoting Lowrider instead. I was wondering why you'd assume that we
43 Post contains images 2H4 : Oh, I wasn't referring to the ERJs with the 'know and love' comment.....I was referring to the Starship. I think it's safe to say we all know and lov
44 Lowrider : I do. I wish we would see more development of the canard configuration. That is a tough one, where do you find these?
45 FLY2HMO : Uhm, some kind of Illyushin/Antonov/Beriev with some weird mod?
46 Post contains images 2H4 : Well, given that this example is a bit of a mutant, that's good enough for me. It's a Beriev A-50 Mainstay, which is based on the Illyushin Il-76 Can
47 Speedracer1407 : I'm an idiot. I failed to recognize the fact that, in the hangar photo, the door was a big black hole, and the other photo showed the door closed. Si
48 Post contains images 2H4 : Is is indeed a Grumman E-2 Hawkeye. Does anyone know how the colored lights are used, specifically? I assume it's for the cat guys, but I'd like to h
49 Lowrider : Its not a YS 11, is it?
50 HAWK21M : DC-9 Maybe regds MEL
51 Starlionblue : Doesn't the DC-9 have a central window?
52 Brenintw : I'm probably exhibiting my gross ignorance here, but I'd hazard a guess at a BAC 1-11. Bren
53 Legoguy : Lockheed P3 Orion EDIT... ok I agree with Lowrider, after looking at it again it looks like a YS-11[Edited 2006-11-13 10:35:30]
54 Post contains images FLY2HMO : Ya its a YS-11
55 HAWK21M : True. Looks like a YS-11. regds MEL
56 Post contains images 2H4 : And Lowrider gets it! It's a YS-11. Current Score MissedApproach - 1 Lowrider - 2 Speedracer1407 - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 Remember....that black and white one
57 Lowrider : That looks like a Cessna 303 Crusader. They didn't make many of those.
58 Post contains images 2H4 : It is! Current Score MissedApproach - 1 Lowrider - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 Here's a similar airplane: 2H4
59 Ilikeyyc : Commander 700
60 3DPlanes : Not the Cat guys, but rather the LSOs - they show the AOA of the landing aircraft. Although during the day, a good LSO shouldn't need them, relying i
61 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it! Quite a rare bird...I saw one in person for the first time last month. Here's the uncropped shot: Current Score Lowrider - 3 Speedracer14
62 KELPkid : Let me take a gander: Rockwell Shrike Commander?
63 Post contains images 2H4 : Not a Commander....I don't think those have rear windows... I've thought about a prize for the winner of this contest. Whoever reaches 10 points firs
64 Post contains images N231YE : A.Net FC membership for life?
65 Post contains images 2H4 : Good god man...what kind of power do you think I have? I am but a humble database editor.... 2H4
66 KELPkid : Pressurized Centurion?
67 Post contains images JetMech : G'day A'netters , I had some spare photos hanging around, so I thought I would post it for the "Identify This" competition. 2H4, do you want to add th
68 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it, KELPkid! It's a Cessna P210 Pressurized Centurion. Current Score Lowrider - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 Ilikeyyc - 1 MissedApproach
69 BAe146QT : My immediate reaction was North American OV-10 Bronco, but the lack of props and a twin boom kills that idea.
70 Post contains images 2H4 : You're on the right track, though. 2H4
71 BAe146QT : North American GA-8 Airvan. I think.
72 BAe146QT : no wait - scrub that. The GA-8 is made by Gippsland. And the canopy is wrong. I dunno. Give up.
73 KELPkid : Looks a lot like a Helio Courier (except for the tip tanks)...is this the militarized, turboprop version? EDIT: Make my vote the Helio AU 24A Stallio
74 Post contains images 2H4 : Great job, KELPkid! You're exactly right! Here's the uncropped shot: Current Score Lowrider - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 KELPkid - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 Ilikeyyc -
75 KELPkid : Piaggio Avanti?
76 Post contains images 2H4 : Well done! Apparently, I'm going to have to kick the difficulty up a few notches... Current Score Lowrider - 3 KELPkid - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 FLY2HMO
77 SlamClick : Hmmm. My guess would have been Larry Montgomery flying it, but what do I know?
78 JetMech : Is that a Douglas Skyraider (AD-6)?[Edited 2006-11-14 23:14:29]
79 Post contains images 2H4 : It is a Skyraider! Here's the entire shot: Current Score Lowrider - 3 KELPkid - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 Ilikeyyc - 1 MissedApproach - 1 JetM
80 Post contains images KELPkid : Learjet 23? EDIT: Upon further review of all available information, I'm changing my vote to the Hansa Jet [Edited 2006-11-15 00:06:14]
81 N231YE : I'd second that. For me, the giveaway is the GE logo on the jet engine nacelle; the Hansa Jet has the CJ610 turbojets.
82 Post contains images 2H4 : Well done, KELPkid....you're the new leader! Current Score KELPkid - 4 Lowrider - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 Ilikeyyc - 1 MissedApproach - 1 Je
83 Post contains images KELPkid : Now that wouldn't be a Paris Jet (AKA Morraine-Saulnier MS-760A , would it...
84 Post contains images 2H4 : Ok, that does it. No more screwing around. It's time to kick things up a notch. If you nail the next one right away, I'll have to bring out the truly
85 787atPAE : That looks like a B-24 Liberator.
86 Ilikeyyc : Hey now, no one has yet gotten the second pictore in reply 26 Are those de-ice boots on the engine inlet? Or is it black for heat purposes? You cover
87 N215AZ : Is it a B-32? N215AZ
88 JetMech : I can guarantee that it is not a piece of test equipment. I can also guarantee that it is not found on a military aircraft. It is most definitely a p
89 Lowrider : Is it a Refuel/Defuel panel? Such as you would find on the exterior to control single point fueling. Wow, I go away for a few days and this thread ta
90 Post contains images JetMech : Indeed it is! Do you know what aircraft type it's from? [Edited 2006-11-15 07:01:57]
91 Post contains images JetMech : I was going to add the unaltered picture to the above reply as well but the edit time out beat me   . [Edited 2006-11-15 07:12:06]
92 Lowrider : Not exactly, but I would guess its something large. The APU switch tells me its probably not a DC-8 either. If I had to make a WAG, it would be a DC-
93 Post contains images 2H4 : It's not a B-24... It's not a B-32... Yes! I took that photo at Oshkosh a few years ago. Here's a full view: Current Score KELPkid - 5 Lowrider - 3 S
94 Lowrider : Is it an AN-26?[Edited 2006-11-15 07:13:32]
95 Post contains images JetMech : It is from European aircraft (not Concorde). Sorry about the stuff ups with the pictures in my previous two replies, these are the photos I wanted to
96 2H4 : It is not... 2H4
97 Ilikeyyc : after much searching, I believe that is a Beriev BE 12 "Chaika"
98 Speedracer1407 : here's a crazy guess for the big square grey plane: Junkers JU 90?
99 Post contains links and images Oly720man : This one...?? There are similarities in the weathering. View Large View MediumPhoto © Roman Y. Korovin
100 Post contains links and images Ilikeyyc : Yes- here another picture of the Beriev BE 12, (possibly the same one that 2H4 has): gallery at: http://svsm.org/gallery/be12sz
101 Post contains images 2H4 : Yes indeed...nice job! Current Score KELPkid - 5 Lowrider - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 JetMech - 2 Ilikeyyc - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 MissedApproach - 1 Here's today
102 Lowrider : Is it a FMA IA 58 Pucara?
103 Post contains images 2H4 : That's exactly what it is! Here's the full shot: I love this shot....check out the front tire... Current Score KELPkid - 5 Lowrider - 4 Speedracer140
104 Legoguy : Its a handley page victor
105 Post contains images JetMech : I think you're right Legoguy. I was going to say it was a Blackburn Buccaneer but the airbrake is not quite correct .
106 Post contains images Legoguy : Of course i'm right Look at the undercarriage. You can see a minimum of four wheels on the main bogies. The buccaneer only has 1 or 2 wheels on each
107 Post contains images David L : The one chance I get to actually identify something here and someone beat me to it.
108 KELPkid : Avro Vulcan? Filler Filler Filler
109 Post contains images 2H4 : Sure is... Current Score KELPkid - 5 Lowrider - 4 Speedracer1407 - 2 JetMech - 2 Ilikeyyc - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 MissedApproach - 1 Legoguy - 1 2H4
110 KELPkid : PAC Fletcher? Filler Filler Filler
111 Post contains images 2H4 : Nope... 2H4
112 JetMech : Is is some modified version of the Zlin Z-37T ?
113 2H4 : It is not... 2H4
114 Curmudgeon : Not the Fletcher Fu-24?
115 2H4 : The two aircraft do look very similar, but after further investigation, I haven't found any connection at all between the two. This one appears to be
116 Curmudgeon : Then how about the Fletcher FD25B Defender prototype converted to a duster?
117 2H4 : I'll gladly stand corrected, but I don't think it's related to Fletcher at all... 2H4
118 Curmudgeon : I wonder then, if its a one-off constructed from Fletcher parts? It is a conventional gear airplane? (God, how old does that make me sound?) Can you s
119 2H4 : Well, I found a historical description of the airplane written by a former owner, and it is evidently derived from an entirely different (ie: non-Fle
120 HangarRat : Kingsford Smith something or other. Wild guess, but it reminds me of something from my dad's 1957 spotters' guide.[Edited 2006-11-18 04:50:14]
121 2H4 : Nope... 2H4
122 KBFIspotter : Is it some kind of Transavia? Kris KBFIspotter
123 2H4 : It is not... 2H4
124 Curmudgeon : Ahhh, of course...the Yeoman! YA-1 Cropmaster. Good one![Edited 2006-11-18 05:27:33]
125 Post contains images 2H4 : Haha....you got it, Curmudgeon! I normally require the full name and designation to award the point, but because this one was so obscure, and because
126 Curmudgeon : Lockheed L-18 Lodestar? I was thinking Junkers Ju-86, but what do I know?
127 Keta : I'll give it a try... Beechcraft XA-38 Grizzly?
128 Post contains images 2H4 : None of the above.... Well, plenty, given that you identified the Yeoman.... 2H4
129 SlamClick : Lioré et Olivier 451
130 2H4 : The Lioré et Olivier is remarkably similar, but that's not what it is.... 2H4
131 Curmudgeon : Messerschmitt 110 filler
132 2H4 : Negative... 2H4
133 JetMech : Is it a Dassault M.D.315 Flamant? Also designated M.D. 311, 312, 316 & 316T depending on use and engines.[Edited 2006-11-18 23:50:53]
134 Post contains images Curmudgeon : Well if its not, I'd ask for my money back. I just looked it up and can't imagine it being anything else. That dihedral on the horizontal stab looks
135 Post contains images 2H4 : It is! Nice job, JetMech! Current Score KELPkid - 5 Lowrider - 4 JetMech - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 Ilikeyyc - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 MissedApproach - 1 Legoguy -
136 N231YE : Shin Maywa US-1A The message you were about to post is too short and probably not of any higher value to the topic at hand. You should think long and
137 KBFIspotter : Oops, looks like I took too long to post it... Kris[Edited 2006-11-19 03:16:36]
138 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it, N231YE! Current Score KELPkid - 5 Lowrider - 4 JetMech - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 Ilikeyyc - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 MissedApproach - 1 Legoguy - 1 Cur
139 Post contains links and images JetMech : I certainly agree with you there Curmudgeon . The lines, shapes and curves of the Flamant have a classical gracefulness about of them. It is very muc
140 Post contains images 2H4 : How does the saying go....."If it's ugly, it's Russian. If it's weird, it's British. If it's ugly and weird, it's French." ...Or something like that.
141 KELPkid : Aermacchi MB-326? Filler filler Filler
142 Curmudgeon : Aerovodochody L-29 Delphin jet trainer/very light attack aircraft
143 Post contains images Curmudgeon : Hey! Wait a second....I'M French!
144 Curmudgeon : Let me change my submission to :L-39 Albatross.... with Cessna Cardinal RG landing gear. It's the gear that has me stumped-it looks too light weight f
145 2H4 : None of the above... 2H4
146 3DPlanes : RFB Fantrainer (aka DASA Ranger 2000) Blah Blah Blah[Edited 2006-11-19 15:36:35]
147 Post contains links and images 2H4 : Indeed! Here's a full shot: Welcome to the competition, 3DPlanes! Current Score KELPkid - 5 Lowrider - 4 JetMech - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 Ilikeyyc - 2
148 SlamClick : That is Lockheed's two-engine version of the Jetstar. edit: I'd include a picture but the server is bogged down.[Edited 2006-11-19 17:02:47]
149 KBFIspotter : Are you sure about that? The engine pylons do not look right for it to be one of the 2 prototype jetstars... I could be wrong, though. I also do not
150 Post contains links and images 2H4 : Correct, KBFIspotter! For comparison's sake, here's a Jetstar rear end: View Large View MediumPhoto © AirNikon Current Score KELPkid - 5 Lowride
151 SlamClick : My other mistake. I thought they were the slipper tanks.
152 KBFIspotter : What nationality is that insignia? Kris
153 Lowrider : That looks like the trainer version of the Dornier 335, aka the Do 335A-12
154 Post contains links Starlionblue : Correct. Here's the full pic. http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/germany/dornier/do_335/d335-42.jpg It's taken at RAE Farnborough so my guess is some
155 Post contains images 2H4 : Very impressive, Lowrider. Here's the full shot: Current Score KELPkid - 5 Lowrider - 5 JetMech - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 Ilikeyyc - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 Misse
156 Lowrider : EDIT: I would like to change my answer to a Noorduyn Norseman [Edited 2006-11-19 23:34:40][Edited 2006-11-19 23:43:58]
157 KBFIspotter : I even looked at that aircraft and realised that the landing gear was a similar design, and saw the airscoop, but dismissed it due to the location of
158 Lowrider : That threw me too, but the rest was too close to just dismiss it.
159 Post contains images 2H4 : Excellent...and with that, you take the lead! Current Score Lowrider - 6 KELPkid - 5 JetMech - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 Ilikeyyc - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 MissedAp
160 3DPlanes : Rockwell OV-10 Blah Blah Blah
161 Post contains images 2H4 : One point for 3DPlanes! Current Score Lowrider - 6 KELPkid - 5 JetMech - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 Ilikeyyc - 2 3DPlanes - 2 FLY2HMO - 1 MissedApproach -
162 Curmudgeon : Swiss Federal Aviation Factory FFA P-16
163 Post contains images 2H4 : Hmm...I was sure that would take more time to be identified. Nicely done. Here's the full, unedited shot: Current Score Lowrider - 6 KELPkid - 5 JetM
164 Curmudgeon : Aeronautica Macchi AL-60
165 Post contains images Curmudgeon : Thank you. I can't recall the name of the guy that I flew with last week, but I DO recall an old Flying magazine article that mentioned the Lear 23 w
166 Post contains images 2H4 : Correct. That particular airplane was produced under several different names and manufacturers. Current Score Lowrider - 6 KELPkid - 5 JetMech - 3 Cu
167 KBFIspotter : I am going to say the Dornier Do-27. The windows are the correct shape, and in the correct position. Kris
168 Lowrider : Just in case he is wrong ( and I don't think he is), I will throw in the PZL-104 Wilga. Its close, but I think KBFI beat me to it.
169 Post contains images 2H4 : It's actually a Do-28, but I believe they have the same fuselage, so that's close enough. Current Score Lowrider - 6 KELPkid - 5 JetMech - 3 Curmudge
170 Lowrider : Is that a Wing Derringer?
171 SlamClick : If I may hijack the hijacked thread for a moment... Get on GoogleEarth and go to NAS Miramar. Those of you unfamiliar it is just north-northeast of Sa
172 KELPkid : Grumman Cougar? Filler Filler Filler
173 David L : Do I spy a SAAB Draken? Edit: I'm not sure of the delta winged affair next to it but, due to the hint of a foreplane in the shadow, I might as well g
174 SlamClick : I agree with you on the Drakken. Disagree on the Viggen.
175 David L : Fair enough. I'd need to zoom in closer than Google Earth will let me. I'll take a shot at a Mirage 3, then.
176 Starlionblue : The northern one is definitely a Draken. The southern could be mistaken for a Gripen. Viggen is larger and the wing trailing edge is further back. How
177 SlamClick : That is my judgement also. Just speaking probabilities here, who is likely to be training with the USN? Israel perhaps? Who flies Gripens etc? Of cou
178 Post contains images Keta : That's my opinion too. LOL that's weird. I count 5 of them, what can it be, overlapped images? Or real ghost planes?
179 Lowrider : I recall reading that the US Military will occasionally borrow planes from other sources for test pilot trainees to fly and evaluate for practice. Pe
180 David L : Yes, OK, The Kfir would make more sense.
181 KBFIspotter : Well, the National Test Pilot School at MHV flies several Drakens, and there are a couple of contractors that fly the Kfir in aggressor rolls, so I c
182 Starlionblue : As you say the Draken (note spelling. Draken means "The Dragon" in Swedish) can probably be found from surplus Austrian, Danish, Finnish and Swedish
183 Post contains images SlamClick : Gryphon: (note spelling) Griffon: Charming fellow but no fighters named after him.
184 Curmudgeon : The Hercs must be image overlap. The shadow is longer for the one in the corner, like the photo was taken at dawn.
185 Post contains links and images Starlionblue : Lol. Nice try Captain Click but both spellings are kosher. The Griffin (Greek gryphos, Persian شیردال‌ shir
186 Starlionblue : Rrrr. Why is my post already locked? In any case Draken also means "The Kite". EDIT: Found this interesting tidbit in the Draken Wikipedia entry: In t
187 Post contains images 2H4 : It is! Another point for Lowrider! Current Score Lowrider - 7 KELPkid - 5 JetMech - 3 Curmudgeon - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 Ilikeyyc - 2 3DPlanes - 2 KBF
188 Lowrider : That looks like a PC-8D, a twin engined Pilatus Porter
189 Lowrider : I have a buddy that will be amused to hear this. As he says, "don't mess with the Swedes".
190 Post contains images 2H4 : Yes, it is.....and with that, I'd say it's time to up the difficulty a notch... Current Score Lowrider - 8 KELPkid - 5 JetMech - 3 Curmudgeon - 3 Spe
191 Lowrider : That is the Mooney 301 (M30). That one I remember from a trip to Kerrville.
192 KBFIspotter : You are right, Lowrider, I even found that same photo on a website... Kris
193 Lowrider : Really? Which one? I checked Mooney's website and did not see it. I am a fan of that particular make.
194 Post contains links KBFIspotter : Here you go, lowrider... courtesy of Google! http://www.mooneyevents.com/Mooney301.html Kris
195 Lowrider : Ah, thanks. Sweet sweet google. Where would we be with out you?
196 Post contains images KELPkid : Looks like the Mooney M727 or Mooney M737 with those fowler flaps on a track, the anti-servo tabs on the ailerons, and the apparent spoilers... Can't
197 Post contains images 2H4 : It is indeed. Sorry about the wait...it's been a busy couple of days for me... Current Score Lowrider - 9 KELPkid - 5 JetMech - 3 Curmudgeon - 3 Spee
198 Lowrider : It is an airplane, right? Not a helicopter?
199 Post contains images KELPkid : Haven't seen too many helicopters with speedbrakes
200 Post contains images 2H4 : It is not rotary-wing. 2H4
201 SlamClick : Nor skiers poling and snowplowing at the same time. Question: If a helicopter had speed brakes which way would they deploy?
202 Post contains images 2H4 : AeroWeanie....we're looking in your direction... 2H4
203 Lowrider : True. Having failed to come up with an answer so far, I am trying to think outside the box a little. So its not a helicopter. If I come up with enoug
204 KBFIspotter : Well, I think I can rule out civillian.. I do not know of any civil aircraft with speedbreaks like that (I may be wrong), So I am going to guess it i
205 Post contains images 2H4 : You didn't think I was going to make your winning point an easy one, did you? I'd better not say.... 2H4
206 Post contains images BAe146QT : I reckon mid-wing jet trainer of some sort. Knowing this crowd it'll be some Pakistani copy of a Mitsi T4 trainer or something. Swines. This comp is
207 KBFIspotter : I looked at that aircraft, but the landing gear design is wrong... I am trying to find an aircraft that has a main landing gear design like that, it
208 Curmudgeon : I am ashamed to reveal how much time I spent yesterday on this one. The gear looks military. Navy, even. But the chocks don't look too military, and t
209 Post contains images 2H4 : Believe me, as someone who competed in aircraft recognition for four years, I can relate. 2H4
210 Starlionblue : Well it's not a SAAB 105. Gonna go way out there and say Fouga Magister based on nothing besides the fact that I love saying "Fouga Magister". Posted
211 Lowrider : Still working on the process of elimination. Very close to many, but no exact matches. Yet. Good choice.
212 Curmudgeon : Lockheed F-104 VTOL (1962)?
213 KBFIspotter : I have flipped through my Aircraft encyclopedias, as well as our recognition database at work, and cannot pinpoint this one... I do not think the gear
214 Curmudgeon : No, its not quite right, is it? I thought the VTOL 104 experiment was the closest. I have been up and down the history of Soviet/Nato/experimental air
215 KBFIspotter : I was thinking of the Rockwell T-2 Buckeye, but the LG is not right... I am trying to find an aircraft that has fuse mounted speedbreaks ahead of the
216 Curmudgeon : Yeah, I went down that road too, all the 50's fighters and trainers. I looked at the tilt rotors too. Since that looks like a main gear, and a beefy o
217 Lowrider : I still have nothing. I am sure I have seen it somewhere, I just am not sure where. I am assuming it is a speed brake ahead of the gear. That and the
218 GAIsweetGAI : Wild guess- Mitsubishi Mu-2?
219 KBFIspotter : Already looked into it... Landing gear design is wrong... Kris
220 Post contains images 2H4 : Ok, I was finally able to scrounge around for some prizes. Here's how it will work: As initially stated, the first person to reach 10 points will win
221 HAWK21M : Wow.Nice Prizes. I need to learn to Identify Rare aircraft better. Great way of Educating. regds MEL
222 474218 : It the Fairchild T-46! Removed the photo. [Edited 2006-11-26 04:36:41][Edited 2006-11-26 04:44:20]
223 Lowrider : aw nuts... The message you were about to post is too short and probably not of any higher value to the topic at hand. You should think long and hard b
224 Post contains links and images 474218 : Its still the Fairchild T-46 but I transposed the photo number. Here is the picture I ment to post: View Large View MediumPhoto © Michael Baldock
225 KBFIspotter : I think you're right! Great catch! Kris
226 Post contains images JetMech : Money ? It certainly is a lightweight prize of much value! Nice work 474218. I was certain that it was some sort of 1950's or 1960's naval aircraft o
227 KBFIspotter : I was thinking the same thing, JetMech. I forgot all about the T-46. I did look at the Temco model 51 Pinto, though... Kris
228 Post contains images 2H4 : Bingo! Well done, 474218! Current Score Lowrider - 9 KELPkid - 5 JetMech - 3 Curmudgeon - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 Ilikeyyc - 2 3DPlanes - 2 KBFIspotter
229 KBFIspotter : Mooney M-22 Mustang? Kris
230 Post contains images JetMech : I also thought that it could quite possibly be a jet trainer as well, but I could not match that landing gear. It looks like quite a beefy landing ge
231 Post contains links and images KBFIspotter : The X-1 did not have fuse mounted speed brakes, as far as I know... I wish I had discovered this thread earlier, as many of the first few photos that
232 KBFIspotter : I also have a few photos that I think would give some a run for their money... I think they might even stump you, 2H4... Kris
233 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it, KBFIspotter! Current Score Lowrider - 9 KELPkid - 5 JetMech - 3 Curmudgeon - 3 KBFIspotter - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 Ilikeyyc - 2 3DPlanes -
234 Lowrider : Thank you, I leave tonight and don't know when I will get back to somewhere with internet service. I missed quite a few last week.
235 Post contains images 2H4 : Ok, here's the next one: 2H4
236 Lowrider : A YS-11? filler filler filler filler filler
237 KBFIspotter : Something with the windshields just does not look right for it to be a YS-11. All of the photos I looked at of that type show the lower sill of the f
238 KBFIspotter : I am going to go out on a limb here and say the De Havilland Canada DHC-7. The windshield design looks about right, with a few issues here and there,
239 Lowrider : I looked at the Dash 7 too, but like the YS-11 better when you look at where and how the windshield wipers are mounted.
240 Rufruf : It's called your Co-Pilot !
241 KBFIspotter : I would agree with you, Lowrider, but the irregularities with the positioning of the windshields still stand out in my mind... Like I said, I could v
242 Post contains images 2H4 : Neither guess is correct. Here are a couple of photos for comparison: The YS-11 The Dash-7 2H4
243 Post contains links and images KBFIspotter : Kawasaki C-1? View Large View MediumPhoto © Robert Hockemeijer EDIT: photo Kris[Edited 2006-11-27 17:15:41]
244 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it! Here's the original shot: Current Score Lowrider - 9 KELPkid - 5 KBFIspotter - 4 JetMech - 3 Curmudgeon - 3 Speedracer1407 - 2 Ilikeyyc -
245 Lowrider : A Saab JA-37? yadda yadda yadda
246 2H4 : Negatory... 2H4
247 Lowrider : Oops, I just came back for an edit, how about a Sukhoi Su-32/34?
248 Curmudgeon : Is it the landing gear of the secretly preserved flying example of the Avro Arrow with Iriquoi engines...the mythical RL 206?[Edited 2006-11-28 04:14:
249 Curmudgeon : Well done, Lowrider...I was thinking MiG, but the Su-32 looks closer. There's certainly a lot of titanium in that gear which makes me think "Russian"
250 2H4 : Neither of those... 2H4
251 Lowrider : Thanks. I went for the Saab first, but when I went to check my facts, I realized the Ja-37 gear was hinged in the middle. I am going to claim the Bus
252 Curmudgeon : oops.
253 Lowrider : nuts
254 Lowrider : Alright, last shot for the night. A BAC TSR.2 It is the closest thing I can find right now.
255 Post contains images 2H4 : .....And with that, first prize is claimed! Lowrider The race is on for second and third place: Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid -
256 Post contains images 2H4 : Here's the next one: 2H4
257 3DPlanes : I'm gonna go with a Beagle B.206. Flap hinges and exhaust look right, but I'm not sure about the cowl flaps... Filler Filler Filler[Edited 2006-11-29
258 Curmudgeon : Damn, I wish I had logged on earlier. Sure looks like a 206
259 Post contains images David L : A prop version of an Me 262 is the best I can come up with.
260 Post contains images Starlionblue : Lol. The Schwalbe had swept wings and a much flatter bottom.
261 Post contains images 2H4 : One point for 3DPlanes! Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 5 KBFIspotter - 4 JetMech - 3 Curmudgeon - 3 3DPlanes - 3 Speedracer140
262 Post contains images 2H4 : Ok, here's the next one: And here's a bonus shot. One point for anyone who can identify this panel: Click photo for large version ....but if nobody c
263 Scooter01 : The airpiane looks like a Conestoga to me -no idea about the panel though.
264 3DPlanes : On the panel, just a guess, but might it be a Northrop X-4? Numa Numa Yay
265 Post contains images 2H4 : That's correct....it's a Budd RB-1 (or C-93) Conestoga. Here's the full pic: Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 5 KBFIspotter - 4
266 Post contains links Oly720man : Panel photo. Having seen the switch for skew, guessed at the AD-1 skew wing aircraft and... the photo's on the Dryden photo server. http://www1.dfrc.n
267 Post contains images 2H4 : Nice catch, Oly720man! Here's the aircraft itself: Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 5 KBFIspotter - 4 JetMech - 3 Curmudgeon - 3
268 N231YE : Oops, that was the answer[Edited 2006-11-30 17:26:14]
269 Post contains images 2H4 : Here's tonight's aircraft: 2H4
270 N231YE : I'll take a stab at it... Handley Page Herald?
271 Post contains images JetMech : The closest I can come up with is the Aviation Traders ATL-90 Accountant !
272 Post contains images KELPkid : I would have guessed Carvair, but the nosegear doors are totally wrong, and the Carvair has no forward entry door slightly below the cockpit Neverthe
273 Post contains images 2H4 : No, it's not the Herald. Have a look at the Herald's cockpit windows: It's not an Accountant, either... 2H4
274 Scooter01 : Just some thoughts to maybe help others along 'cause my mind is blank; Definately not a sleek high-speed design, just observe those vertical slabs goi
275 Lowrider : Anyone that uses the name "Accountant" for a plane needs to be taken out back and beaten. What will the follow-on model be, the "Auditor"?
276 Miamiair : Breguet 941???
277 N231YE : You're right...oh well, back to the "idea board."
278 2H4 : Indeed. How ridiculous would that sound over the frequency? "Cessna 3UM, you're number two behind the Accountant on final" Negative... 2H4
279 Post contains images 2H4 : Man.....still nothing? Ok, I'll post another: The point for the previous one will remain up for grabs, if anyone can identify it... 2H4
280 Lowrider : Might want to consider a new thread, as this one will take a while to load for anyone with a slow connection.
281 3DPlanes : The new one appears to be a Dornier 228 - it looks like the ski kit comes with fairings for the gear (which are normally retractable). The older one s
282 Curmudgeon : Crap. Beat me to the 228-100 again. Still no idea on the older one. Its not a C-119 or C-82 that I can see.
283 Post contains images KELPkid : D'oh!!! Right after I accidentally found my copy of "Jane's All the World's Aircraft" in the garage (when my wife thought I was looking for Christmas
284 GAIsweetGAI : Would that be a Vickers Viscount?
285 Post contains images N231YE : Uh oh, we're done now...
286 Post contains images 2H4 : What do the rest of you think? I've had no trouble at all, what with the new 'collapsed replies' format... It is! One point for 3DPlanes! Here's the
287 GAIsweetGAI : 2 other guesses: Beriev Be-2 Cl-415
288 2H4 : Neither... 2H4
289 Jdl1527 : extra ea-500 filler filler filler
290 KBFIspotter : Or a Turbine Conversion of the 206, 210, or Beech Bonanza... Kris
291 Post contains images Jdl1527 :
292 KBFIspotter : In this case, you're right... Kris
293 Jdl1527 : The Extra 500 uses the same Turbine as in the Bonanza Turbine Conversion. I think the real sad part was how i found out what this plane was, googled "
294 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it, Jdl1527! Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 5 KBFIspotter - 4 3DPlanes - 4 JetMech - 3 Curmudgeon - 3 Speedracer1407 -
295 Post contains images JetMech : Hey 2H4, those pictures were of the refueling / defueling control panel of an Airbus A340-600. I had to remove those photos to put other photos up in
296 Post contains images 2H4 : Ok, here's the next one: Proper military designation, please... And by the way....the individual who correctly identifies that unidentified black & w
297 KELPkid : USAF T-1A Jayhawk? Filler Filler Filler...
298 2H4 : Negative... 2H4
299 GQfluffy : C-38 Astra SPX? *wild-arse guess...
300 Jdl1527 : c-37a Filler filler filler
301 Post contains images 2H4 : ....And a damn good one, at that! One point for GQfluffy! Here's the original shot: Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 5 KBFIspott
302 N231YE : Too late The message you were about to post is too short and probably not of any higher value to the topic at hand. You should think long and hard bef
303 Jdl1527 : yep thats a c-38 good job GQfluffy
304 3DPlanes : Not a Jayhawk... The Beech doesn't have slats. Going with C-38A, USAF version of the Gulfstream 100 (nee Astra SPX). Bahh! Too slow with my post! Back
305 Scooter01 : Mystery Black and White; -Fairey Rotodyne
306 Curmudgeon : I looked at the Rotodyne a few days ago...there was something wrong, maybe the nose gear. I was wondering about the Consolidated Liberator Express, bu
307 Scooter01 : Curmudgeon is right, the gear is not right. Also the Rotodyne has round windows. Let's go cross-channel and then we find the Hurel Dubois HD34!
308 Post contains links and images Oly720man : B*****d. Just got there myself. If only my visitor hadn't turned up this morning! View Large View MediumPhoto © Marc Lehmann
309 Post contains images 2H4 : Great job, Scooter01! Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 5 KBFIspotter - 4 3DPlanes - 4 JetMech - 3 Curmudgeon - 3 Scooter01 - 3 S
310 Curmudgeon : Man! I can't believe a good looking plane like that wasn't more popular! Waht did you say about earlier about French design weirdness, 2H4?
311 Post contains images 2H4 : Let's see...how does it go...."If it's ugly, it's Russian. If it's wierd, it's British. If it's ugly and wierd, it's French". I believe someone then
312 Scooter01 : For some reason the French used to have really weird nosegear, -this one is mouted on the left side, but its hard to see if it retracts sideways or fo
313 Post contains links and images MD-90 : I'm not sure if it's really fair to include this one, but it's definately rare.
314 Post contains images 2H4 : Well, with the exception of the T-46, I try to stick to aircraft that have progressed beyond the prototype/mock-up stage.... Here's the next one: 2H4
315 Lowrider : Looking at the tail surfaces, I would say at least one designer later found work on the Beech 1900.
316 Boeingfixer : Although it resembles the YAT-28E it is in fact: AIDC T-CH-1 Chung Tsing Late coming into this thread and I find it great. Cheers, John
317 Post contains links and images MD-90 : It's a real aircraft that first flew in the 60s, then was reactivated for more research in the 80s. It's an American plane but a lot of the testing o
318 Post contains links Oly720man : MARVEL Project aircraft XV-11A http://shrike.erc.msstate.edu/raspet/raspet/pages/marvel.html Other earlier one is the Marvelette XAZ-1
319 Post contains links and images MD-90 : Good job.
320 3DPlanes : Gonna hazard a guess, though I can find no photographic evidence to match... Breguet 960 Vultur?
321 Post contains images N231YE : It very much reminds me of the Cessna model 1014 "XMC"
322 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it! I wasn't going to accept outside shots for the contest, but as I myself couldn't figure this one out, I'm going to award a point to Oly72
323 Curmudgeon : It's a John Deere...you can just make it out behind that funky wooden Hartzell.
324 Post contains images GQfluffy : Luscombe Silveraire??? filler filler filler
325 2H4 : No sir.... 2H4
326 Oly720man : Very kind. Thanks!
327 Post contains images Scooter01 : I believe it's spelled SILVAIRE (no ER after the L) But a variable pitch propeller??? ?
328 Post contains images 2H4 : Oh, I knew what you meant. I would have accepted the spelling, regardless...but it's not a Luscombe. 2H4
329 Post contains images Scooter01 : [quote=2H4,reply=328]...but it's not a Luscombe. I know that -but it's driving me nuts! Now it's getting to be a matter of pride... Jan
330 Speedracer1407 : Is that a stinson OY-2 (L-5G)? Something about the prob hub doowacky doesn't look right, but those "nostrils" certainly do fit.
331 Post contains images 2H4 : It is not a Stinson... Let's keep rolling with the contest. The Stinson-like aircraft is still up for grabs, but here's the next one: 2H4
332 3DPlanes : The newest one is a CASA C-212 Aviocar... Still looking on the other...
333 Post contains links Boeingfixer : The single engine piston type is a Consolidated-Vultee L-13. http://www.warbirdalley.com/l13.htm Cheers, John
334 Post contains images 2H4 : Both correct! Well done! Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 5 3DPlanes - 5 KBFIspotter - 4 JetMech - 3 Curmudgeon - 3 Scooter01 -
335 Zenarcade : A Hawker Siddeley Trident? Adam
336 HAWK21M : Did the HS121 have those Probes.I don't think so.Also the center window would be Rectangular. regds MEL
337 Curmudgeon : Nord 262 filler filler filler
338 Post contains links and images Scooter01 : It is a Nord 262 but it seems to have lost it's wings ...and Curmudgeon beat me to it while I was practicing to upload a pic. (should just have left i
339 Curmudgeon : Doesn't that make you cranky when you just miss like that? I think that the camera angle is so low that the wings weren't caught in the picture...the
340 Post contains images Scooter01 : You bet! Especially since I sat up until 3am last nite searching in some of my recognition books. (My wife must be ready to divorce me soon) Interesti
341 Post contains images 2H4 : Yes indeed! That's exactly the case! Honestly, I'm surprised it was identified so quickly. I cropped that shot very carefully, in an attempt to make
342 Scooter01 : Does this mean Eastern or Central time?
343 Post contains images Curmudgeon : He's going to Wright-Patterson today, so I'm expecting some interesting stuff in the next few days
344 Post contains images 2H4 : Here you go, boys and girls: 2H4
345 N231YE : Is this from the Wright-Patterson AFB / USAF museum?
346 JetMech : Is that a DINFIA IA 50 Guarani II ? Regards, JetMech
347 Post contains images 2H4 : Nope. I may post a WPAFB shot...we'll see. It is! Here's the entire shot: Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 5 3DPlanes - 5 Curmud
348 Post contains images 2H4 : Here's tonight's shot: 2H4
349 Curmudgeon : Meyers MAC-145 Built in Techumseh, Michigan in the early 50's.I forgot how good looking they are-the older brother to the -200[Edited 2006-12-11 06:24
350 Lowrider : I think thats it. I was looking for some sort of Navion.
351 Curmudgeon : I must have seen one in the metal years ago, because I recognised it instantly. I remember thinking then, and now, that it's what the Ercoupe wanted t
352 Lowrider : I saw a trike geared Meyes (a 200?) once and it impressed me as a very ruggedly built aircraft. If I were any good with Photoshop, I would put an Erc
353 Post contains images Curmudgeon : I think the Meyers 200 was the only airplane in its class that never had an AD for structural problems. They are good looking airplanes, but when Meye
354 Lowrider : LOL. I quit using one a while ago. You are fortunate to have had experience with so many unique aircraft. The Rockwell 112 was supposed to be comfort
355 Post contains images Curmudgeon : I really am. That I got rides in so many odd airplanes in my teen years (and earlier) only made what came later so natural. I'm glad to have caught t
356 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it! Yep, that would be the 200: Did you know someone made a turboprop version of the 200? It was called Interceptor 400, and later, the Prop-
357 Lowrider : We used to say that there are many Beech twins, but only one Twin Beech. Althought the Twin Bonanza is a close second. I didn't know that, but now I
358 Post contains images Curmudgeon : Years ago I was taxiing behind someone who was calling herself "Twin Beech NXXXXX". The ground controller finally snorted and said something to the e
359 Post contains images 2H4 : A fine sounding thing, as well. Very deep and throaty. The very best sounding airplane with flat engines, in my opinion. Here's tonight's shot: 2H4
360 Curmudgeon : DHC-8 filler filler
361 2H4 : Negative... 2H4
362 Post contains images Curmudgeon : I like airplanes with a deep sound. I think the Queen Air must have been similar, as I recall it has a nice note. Thanks for the latest...this is goi
363 474218 : It wants my answerer longer so I guess Saab SK60A.
364 Post contains images 2H4 : Indeed.... Negative... 2H4
365 Lowrider : The original one was. There is the Excaliber mod which puts in Lycoming IO-720 eight cylinders. The same one from the Comanche 400. A different sound
366 474218 : Ok then how about the Fouga CM-175 Zephyr.
367 Scooter01 : Up the rear end of a Tupolev Tu-104?
368 Scooter01 : Seems you're right,Sir -I take my hat off
369 Post contains links and images Oly720man : View Large View Medium Photo © Jacques Lienard Back end is wrong for the Zephyr, isn't it? Edit : Second thoughts, it does look right. Just got the
370 Post contains links and images Scooter01 : here is one of ship 27 -clearly shows the cast wedge in the tailskid ..and now we're patiently waiting for another shot... [Edited 2006-12-12 13:37:42
371 Post contains images Curmudgeon : Very, very well done. Thanks for saving me hours of puzzling
372 Post contains images 2H4 : Bingo. Well done! Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 5 3DPlanes - 5 Curmudgeon - 5 KBFIspotter - 4 JetMech - 4 Scooter01 - 3 Speed
373 Post contains images 2H4 : Here you go..... 2H4
374 Post contains links and images Starlionblue : XP-55 Ascender. Perhaps my favorite non-German WWII era design. Maybe not the most effective but the designers definitely get style points. View Large
375 Post contains images 2H4 : ...Made by Curtiss, yes! I was wondering when you'd join us, Starlionblue. Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 5 3DPlanes - 5 Curmu
376 Post contains images Starlionblue : Lol. I'm not really any good at general aviation, but give me odd WWII designs that have been featured in old games (Secret Weapons over Normandy, an
377 Scooter01 : Sitting here and reading "war planes of the second world war" volume four by William Green, published by Macdonald & Co. London 1961 -pages 62-65 (-fu
378 Post contains images 2H4 : ...Earning it the nickname "Ass-ender". 2H4
379 Post contains images 2H4 : Here's the next one: 2H4
380 KELPkid : F-20 Tigershark II?
381 Scooter01 : Lockheed T-33 or T-1 Sea Star [Edited 2006-12-14 00:02:30] [Edited 2006-12-14 00:10:50] (sorry - didn't getthe capital S-es)[Edited 2006-12-14 00:13:3
382 Post contains images 2H4 : Well, the aircraft in the photo is actually a regular T-33, but as the two are based on the same airframe, and from this angle, virtually identical,
383 Scooter01 : ..hope it is a bow tie, looks like a propeller.
384 Lowrider : How about a sudden death tie breaker. Give a 24 hour notice as to exactly when you will post it. Pull out the most brutal photo you have. Let the guy
385 Post contains images 2H4 : Hmmm....not a bad idea.... Here's the next one: That's it for me tonight...I'm off to bed, then heading up to Dayton tomorrow to spend the day at the
386 Scooter01 : DINFIA IA 35 Huanquero
387 Starlionblue : The XP-55 was too far ahead of existing control systems. An all flying canard is probably too tricky to handle without electronics. The exception wou
388 Scooter01 : The Curtis was essentially a flying wing with a controllable, nose-mounted elevator. It was not a true canard since it had no fixed forward surface li
389 Starlionblue : Is a canard really defined as a fixed forward surface? This would mean Gripen, Rafale and Typhoon, all referred to as having a canard planform, in re
390 David L : I assumed it was just because of the duck-in-flight-like appearance of having the main wings further aft than the shorter "pitch controlling" surface
391 Post contains images 2H4 : ...And Scooter01 gets it! Well done! Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 5 3DPlanes - 5 Curmudgeon - 5 Scooter01 - 5 KBFIspotter -
392 3DPlanes : I'm gonna go with a Lockheed C-5 Galaxy... typo[Edited 2006-12-15 01:01:49]
393 Starlionblue : Sure, but I think it's a very old term. And many of the very very early "elevator in the front" designs had an all flying elevator. So I would say th
394 474218 : I don't think is a C-5, Lockheed would never have a joint like in the center where the skin on the left appears to overlap the skin on the right, dire
395 KELPkid : Illushyn IL-76 Candid?
396 3DPlanes : I thought IL-76 to start, and I agree that the workmanship doesn't look like Lockheed, but the boattail doesn't look right for the Ilyushins, their's
397 Post contains links and images 474218 : While I would love to be right with my TU-154 guess I think KELPkid is correct if you look at this picture: View Large View MediumPhoto © Milan V
398 Curmudgeon : Vickers VC-10? filler
399 Post contains images JetMech : Isn't canard the French word for duck .
400 Post contains images David L : Sorry, I could have been clearer - I was agreeing with you! Exactly.
401 Post contains images Starlionblue : Sure. I meant it was an old term in the aircraft context. According to the ever reliable Wikipedia ( ) it was first applied to a Santos-Dupont aircra
402 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it! Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 6 3DPlanes - 5 Curmudgeon - 5 Scooter01 - 5 KBFIspotter - 4 JetMech - 4 Speedracer1
403 Post contains images 2H4 : Ready...... Set...... GO!!! 2H4
404 KELPkid : B-29? Filler Filler Filler
405 2H4 : Negative, Ghostrider. 2H4
406 474218 : Kinda looks like the "Pope-mobile".
407 Ex52tech : Lockheed L-10 Electra.
408 Post contains images GQfluffy : Petlyakov Pe2????
409 KBFIspotter : B-18 BOLO!!! That is the rear turret... It could be extended and retracted in flight, but it had some major issues. I helped to install that very tur
410 Rfdramp : if only i could have joined 10 minutes sooner, i could have been on the board. oh well, maybe there will be another one that i have a chance at heh.
411 Post contains images 2H4 : ...Made by Douglas, yes. I took that shot in Dayton. Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 6 3DPlanes - 5 Curmudgeon - 5 Scooter01 -
412 Scooter01 : This could only be the Dornier Do 31 E.
413 Post contains images 2H4 : Bloody hell. That took all of seven minutes. I need to make these things tougher.... Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 6 Scooter0
414 Post contains images 2H4 : Ok, have at it: 2H4
415 3DPlanes : I spy a McDonnel F-3H Demon (after initially thinking FJ-4B Fury)... Filler Filler Filler Typo [Edited 2006-12-17 06:36:56][Edited 2006-12-17 06:39:11
416 Scooter01 : That looks like a traffic control device found at a bordercrossing or in a parkinglot, but methinks 3DPlanes beat me to it. (A guy has to sleep at tim
417 Post contains images 2H4 : You spy correctly! Current Score Lowrider - First place winner KELPkid - 6 Scooter01 - 6 3DPlanes - 6 Curmudgeon - 5 KBFIspotter - 5 JetMech - 4 Spee
418 KBFIspotter : An early Beech Bonanza??? Kris
419 Scooter01 : Ja -looks like it shrunk in the wash S [Edited 2006-12-18 08:08:40][Edited 2006-12-18 08:23:03]
420 Post contains images 2H4 : No, not a Beechcraft. That would be too easy. 2H4
421 KELPkid : Davis DA-3 Homebuilt?
422 2H4 : Negative.... 2H4
423 3DPlanes : Funny little plane... with a funny name... Jamieson J-1 Jupiter Apparently made from surplus remote-controlled target drones left over from WW II.
424 KBFIspotter : You're right! I just found a photo of it online, and after reading the description, it does kind of look like a Cuvler... Kris
425 Post contains images 2H4 : I'm impressed. Four years of studying and competing in aircraft recognition, and I only recently discovered the thing. Well done! Current Score Lowri
426 MrChips : Lockheed AH-56 Cheyenne?
427 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it! Here's the full pic: Current Score Lowrider - First place winner 3DPlanes - 7 KELPkid - 6 Scooter01 - 6 Curmudgeon - 5 KBFIspotter - 5 Je
428 Curmudgeon : Grumman S-2 Tracker. What is that graffiti on the fuselage?[Edited 2006-12-20 01:20:36]
429 Post contains links and images Scooter01 : I thought so too, but the wingroot doesn't look right.. but, maybe it IS this one after all: View Large View Medium Photo © Travis Faudree[Edited 20
430 Curmudgeon : I can't think of any other navy (color) plane (yellow 'rescue' arrow pointing to hatch) that has a hatch under a high wing. An arch-topped hatch at th
431 Scooter01 : You LUCKY bastard
432 Post contains images Curmudgeon : You have no idea how lucky I also am aware of how many neat airplanes I didn't fly or fly in just because I didn't take the time to do it, and now th
433 Curmudgeon : Maybe I had better write "Grumman S-2E Tracker", as that's the info on the photo credit. Nice camera too on the guy in the hatch!
434 Post contains images 3DPlanes : Grrr... Should have seen an S-2! Got tricked by the missing engines, so I was looking for a plane with engines further out... Didn't notice the arrow,
435 Post contains images 2H4 : Current Score Lowrider - First place winner 3DPlanes - 7 KELPkid - 6 Scooter01 - 6 Curmudgeon - 6 KBFIspotter - 5 JetMech - 4 Speedracer1407 - 2 Ilik
436 474218 : Lets say "Martin Mars", JRM.
437 Post contains images Starlionblue : Methinks you are correct. That drop ahead of the wing, the intakes and the tail are all there. Not to mention the four bladed props. Most of the flyi
438 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it! Here's the full shot: Current Score Lowrider - First place winner 3DPlanes - 7 KELPkid - 6 Scooter01 - 6 Curmudgeon - 6 KBFIspotter - 5 J
439 Scooter01 : Maybe a Gardan Horizon?
440 Post contains images 2H4 : Nope....nor is it the Socata Horizon, or the Super Horizon, or the Provence, or the Diplomate. 2H4
441 Post contains images Starlionblue : Good thing you're REALLY cutting the options down there
442 Post contains images 2H4 : Well heck...it should be obvious now.... 2H4
443 JetMech : We actually had an old Grumman Tracker at the training school where I did part of my apprenticeship as an AME. It was fitted out as a sub hunter and
444 Curmudgeon : You would have loved the place in YIP where I looked into A & P training...C-124, Kaman Husky, A-1D, F4F, P2V, F-84 and many more.
445 Post contains images 2H4 : So the Kaman was their method of discipline, then? 2H4
446 HangarRat : Bellanca Cruisemaster
447 Post contains images Scooter01 : Then it's obviouly not a 2/3 scale Mooney M20 -no, the nosegear door is not right, maybe a 2/3 scale Comanche? The shape of the door first made me th
448 3DPlanes : I don't think so, the nose gear scissor link is on the wrong side, and the wishbone is angled aft...
449 KELPkid : I tried this match myself yesterday, and I couldn't locate a single Bellanca with a cowling that looked anything like that, not to mention that most
450 Post contains images Curmudgeon : Hah! Don't feel bad, I did too, and I have had a fly of the damn thing It wasn't until I recognised the yellow arrow that I got my bearings, after fi
451 Zeke : I was thinking piper commanche, the nose link is wrong.
452 Post contains images KELPkid : The Comanche is unmistakable (due to the 6.00x6 nosewheel...the same-size as the main landing gear wheels on the Cessna 172 ). BTW did you know that
453 Post contains images 2H4 : None of the above. It is, however, a full-scale production aircraft. I'll be travelling over the next few days, so I will have only sporadic internet
454 Post contains images Scooter01 : Have a nice trip! We'll be workin' at it. S
455 Post contains images David L : Yup, among others, I was thinking of the Short Sunderland and... the Martin Mars. D'oh! What are the odds?
456 HangarRat : Me too... A quick look and I saw I was wrong. I also didn't count on the engines being removed.
457 Post contains images Curmudgeon : Must have been! That place was just down the street from the FAA GADO office at YIP, this was '72 or '73. I remember looking at that Husky in awe of
458 Lowrider : Please say you have pictures. At night it would probably be pretty impressive.
459 Post contains links and images Francoflier : Johnson Rocket 185 Few of them ever made...
460 Post contains images Zeke : Well done, even the same photo
461 Francoflier : Thanks, I googled my A$$ off to find it. I've been following this thread for a while and it made me depressed as I thought I was plane literate... I
462 Post contains images Curmudgeon : Well done, and tanks for ridding us of this one. It was starting to depress me
463 Post contains images 2H4 : You got it! Well done. Current Score Lowrider - First place winner 3DPlanes - 7 KELPkid - 6 Scooter01 - 6 Curmudgeon - 6 KBFIspotter - 5 JetMech - 4
464 Curmudgeon : Gulfstream C20G freighter
465 3DPlanes : Of all the planes to make a freighter...
466 Curmudgeon : I'm not sure that my answer is correct, but I WAS amazed to find a G-V cargo mod. What an expensive way to ship a few pallets.
467 Post contains images 2H4 : Yes indeed! That aircraft recommendation was courtesy of Lowrider. Here's another angle: Current Score Lowrider - First place winner 3DPlanes - 7 Cur
468 474218 : Lockheed XR60-1 Constitution.
469 Zeke : Why not the standard Lockheed RV6 Constitution ? What makes that a XR60-1 ?
470 Scooter01 : When the first Lockheed Model 89 (Constitution) was built for the US Navy it was given the designation XR6O-1 R= Transport 6= 6th model O= Lockheed (
471 Post contains links and images Francoflier : That thread is depressing me more with every other post... And I thought I knew aircrafts! 474218 took 3 min to answer! 3 MIN! Where did you ever hear
472 David L : It never occurred to me that was a Constitution (the double-bubble fuselage was well disguised in the photo) but I was aware of its existence due to
473 Scooter01 : Absolutely! I saw it at Opa-Locka summer of '71 I believe that Pan-Am even had proposed a movie-theatre in it if they were going to use it. S
474 Post contains images 2H4 : I should have known better than to have posted a Lockheed with 474218 around.... Current Score Lowrider - First place winner 3DPlanes - 7 Curmudgeon
475 474218 : When I worked for Lockheed I had access to lots of old stuff. As for identifying the Constitution in just 3 minutes, it took be a 2 minutes to figure
476 Francoflier : 2H4, before you post the next one, how about a V2.0 thread? that one's so big it's become kind of confused and restricted to broadband users... (tell
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