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VC-25A Flight Deck Photo  
User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7924 times:
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So, while I was searching for particularly devious photos for the Tech/Ops Aircraft Recognition Competition, I ran across this photo:





It's the only photo I've ever seen of the VC-25A flight deck. Granted, virtually no details are visible, but I wonder if those of you who are familiar with the 747 flight deck can spot any differences. It would be interesting to hear what you 747 experts see.



2H4





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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7915 times:

The flight deck is really not all that different then any other 747. Now step behind the cockpit door to the communication area.....!!!!


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineCactusHP From United States of America, joined May 2004, 348 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7903 times:

I understand that the VC-25 is based on the 747-200, but does the cockpit bear any resemblance to the 747-400?


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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5398 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7889 times:

I don't remember seeing any smiling chimps in the standard 747 cockpits.


Jimbo



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7855 times:

In a video documentary going back from I believe was the Discovery Channel, the cockpit resembles that of a 747-300 with the upgraded engine indication panel:


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Photo © Manuel Marin - Iberian Spotters



Very anticlimactic, I know. But it is what it is...

Bryan

[Edited 2006-11-30 01:28:40]


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17000 posts, RR: 67
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7843 times:

Quoting CactusHP (Reply 2):
I understand that the VC-25 is based on the 747-200, but does the cockpit bear any resemblance to the 747-400?

As KFLLCFII says, the VC-25 is based on the 742, but has many of the updated avionics and so forth of later marks.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7790 times:

IIRC, the VC-25 has EADI and EHSI displays, which are not common on 747 Classics.


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User currently offlineFr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5358 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7689 times:

The overhead hatch seems different and there is an auxilary cb panel.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7660 times:

Where was the Photographer Standing.Is there Enough space.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineBWI757 From Israel, joined Dec 2004, 429 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7636 times:

And I would think the pilots would be in uniform?

BWI757



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17000 posts, RR: 67
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7605 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
Where was the Photographer Standing.Is there Enough space.

Might just have set the camera on the F/E panel.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7503 times:

Well from the photo posted by 2H4, it seems as though the overhead doesn't match up to any conventional -200 or -400 overhead panel (see the pics below) notice that after the circuit breakers there are 4 gray levers that i can't find on any overhead of a conventioal 747. (im not talking about the fire extinguishers, because the one in the picture at the start of the thread these knobs are to the far left of the panel)

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744

i would think VC-25 that carries the president would be a little more advanced than a -200!!

highflyer



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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7501 times:

To me, that upper corner looks fairly similar to the 742...

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User currently offlineBladeLWS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7451 times:

Could be the controls to the inflight refueling system?

User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7401 times:

Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Reply 11):
4 gray levers that i can't find on any overhead of a conventioal 747.

Hmm, perhaps they are the chaff/flare/active camouflage/warp drive switches?   

 

[Edited 2006-12-01 05:36:10]

User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7394 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 5):
As KFLLCFII says, the VC-25 is based on the 742

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Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 5):
IRC, the VC-25 has EADI and EHSI displays, which are not common on 747 Classics.

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I can't for the life of me remember the name of the documentry that KFLLCFII mentions, but it did have a very brief view of the flight deck. I would venture to guess that it also features the latest and greatest in navigation gizmos as well.

I think the only thing sensitive on a VC-25 flightdeck is the flightplan.

Quoting BWI757 (Reply 9):
And I would think the pilots would be in uniform?

Yeah, what's up with that?  Confused


User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5398 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7374 times:

Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 14):
Hmm, perhaps they are the chaff/flare/active



Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 15):
I think the only thing sensitive on a VC-25 flightdeck is the flightplan.

Oh, I'd say there are probably quite a few sensitive areas of the cockpit. There are anti-missile devices, such as chaff/flares on these aircraft right?
...and no doubt other equipment operated from within the cockpit.

Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7372 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 16):
There are anti-missile devices, such as chaff/flares on these aircraft right?

No, there's not. Now look right here please:



Seriously though, yeah, you are probably right.


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6767 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7359 times:

Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Reply 11):
Well from the photo posted by 2H4, it seems as though the overhead doesn't match up to any conventional -200 or -400 overhead panel (see the pics below) notice that after the circuit breakers there are 4 gray levers that i can't find on any overhead of a conventioal 747. (im not talking about the fire extinguishers, because the one in the picture at the start of the thread these knobs are to the far left of the panel)

Well, the #1 fire handle can be seen on the right edge of the AF1 pic. With the 4 other switches left of it... Looks like a 742/3 overhead to me...

Mandala499



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User currently offlineFr8mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5358 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 7221 times:

To the left of the fire handle(s) are the flight control cut-off swtiches, on the classics. I imagine the VC-25A has the switches in the same place.

Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Reply 11):
notice that after the circuit breakers there are 4 gray levers

I'm not sure I see these levers. Aft (or more properly) aft and out board of the CB panel is the overhead escape hatch. There appears to be some difference between the classics and this bird.



When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
User currently offlineHighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 7201 times:

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 12):
To me, that upper corner looks fairly similar to the 742...

o you are all right! silly me!  banghead 



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