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Kssu Vs. Atlas Config For DC-10s  
User currently offlineMD11Fanatic From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11228 times:

I was talking to a DC-10 pilot from Omni the other day and he mentioned that planes from the original KSSU configuration were a lot less capable due to more primitive avionics and autopilot capabilities as compared to the later ATLAS configurations.

Can anyone add to this?

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User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3727 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11213 times:
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From a maintenance POV ATLAS & KSSU were two different airline consortium's that pooled their resources to maintain the DC10. All I can remember about the ATLAS group was AF did the CF6 overhauls.

It would be reasonable to assume all the operators within a group would have all their a/c with the same avionic fit.

User currently offlineBwaflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 707 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11173 times:

KSSU - I believe was KLM, Swissair, Sabena, and UTA

User currently offlineCdekoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11104 times:

I don't know about KSSU vs. ATLAS, but the KLM & Martinair DC-10-30's were CAT IIIc certified and the FMS systems were state of the art. Compared to the B747-200's in the fleet the DC-10 was far more sophisticated.

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.
User currently offlineXms3200 From Sweden, joined Apr 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11073 times:
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KSSU - KLM, SAS, UTA, Swissair

ATLAS - Aitalia, Lufthansa, Iberia, Air France, Sabena

The avionics in all the KSSU a/c were top notch compared to the ATLAS a/c in my opinion

User currently offlineTimT From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 10989 times:

NWA's DC-10 were all KSSU. They tried to get the Cat III thing going and never made it. I've spent 8-10 hours getting one to pass the tests, and on the first flight it would fail. Everytime. As far as differences? I think the part numbers are the same for all the pitch & roll computers. Maybe a different dash number. NWA also disabled the CWS and TURB modes on the A/P. Atlas did not.

User currently offlineMD11Fanatic From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 10980 times:

KSSU aircraft sound like they're a lot less capable. Who'd want that?

User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1526 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10942 times:

ATLAS and KSSU also translated to galley standards and became the major industry specifications for galley carts, carriers, trays, etc. ATLAS has now become the majority galley standard for most airlines, though some still use KSSU while some others use their own custom specifications which are modifications of the ATLAS or KSSU standard.

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