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Airbus Crew Ignores ILS And Lands At Wrong Airport  
User currently offlineAjaaron From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 113 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6681 times:

A320 crew landed at wrong airport when they believed the ILS signals were innacurate once they became visual with an airport 5 miles before actual destination. They were both so convinced, that both of them rejected the ILS signals, cancelled all the GPWS warnings, and, though not mentioned in the report also must have mentally rejected their position and intended track on the Navigation display.

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources...irbus%20A320,%20EI-DIJ%2001-07.pdf

Whats most surprising is that the commander had over 14,000 hours flying time.

It does happen from time to time, but irony is that if it was in IMC this would not have happened.

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User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6674 times:

Whoa, wait a minute, there are train tracks crossing the runway!?! No wounder they landed at the wrong airport, they were too busy looking for trains!

Tower: Flight 123 you are second to land, follow Conrail on approach.


User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3700 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6659 times:
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What is the significance of the a/c type? A few years ago a DC10 landed in Belgium instead of Holland due to crew error.

User currently offlineAjaaron From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6646 times:

Quoting VC-10 (Reply 2):
What is the significance of the a/c type? A few years ago a DC10 landed in Belgium instead of Holland due to crew error.

Just to get you a bit more excited - who's interested if it was a cessna pilot...


User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6646 times:

Quoting Ajaaron (Thread starter):
Whats most surprising is that the commander had over 14,000 hours flying time.

IMO the most shocking thing is the airline did not provide sufficent charts for the area, "The commander tried in vain for 3 days prior to the flight to obtain aerodrome charts for ballikelly." yet after getting the charts 1 day after the incident he said "he would have then known of the proximity/existance of the other airport and not landed there".

Sounds like an airline screw up there, all the aircraft I've worked on had chart library's you would kill your cat for, we had charts for the other side of the world on our 737s - hardly a diversion.

I'm just making an observation though, not passing some blame or anything. What airline was it, I see an EI- registration but I doubt it was Aer Lingus - Translift perhaps?

Phil
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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6641 times:
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Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 1):
Whoa, wait a minute, there are train tracks crossing the runway!?! No wounder they landed at the wrong airport, they were too busy looking for trains!

Reminds me of the time I was flying cross-country in a flight of three with some buddies. One of them spotted a "runway".....I believe the exchange went something like this:

Buddy 1: Dude....check out that runway off to the left.

Buddy 2: What runway? I don't see any runway.

Buddy 1: Yeah, that weird one at our 10 'o clock. They put grandstands in on the sides to watch planes land. What a bunch of idiots. Can you imagine what would happen if a plane veered off the runway?

Buddy 2: Uh...that's a dragstrip. For cars.

Buddy 1: < Kept silent for the remainder of the flight >


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User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6686 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 4):
I see an EI- registration but I doubt it was Aer Lingus - Translift perhaps?


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6343 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6541 times:

This happened to a NW A319 crew not too long ago too...

The field of intended landing was RAP, however they inded up landing at RCA...big oops. I will surmise that the base commander at Ellsworth Air Force Base had a few choice words with the flight crew  eek 



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User currently offlineFlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6507 times:

Quoting Oly720man (Reply 6):

Haha thanks chief, that was my fault I mis-remembered the year of manufacture as the date of the incident so I thought it happened in 1992....

... Its been one of those days  Smile

Phil
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User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6205 times:

This was reported on here when it happened and was widely reported in the media - the aircraft was operating a flight for Ryanair leading to the normal slagging off of said airline in the Civ-Av forum!

User currently offline744rules From Belgium, joined Mar 2002, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6106 times:

Quoting VC-10 (Reply 2):
What is the significance of the a/c type? A few years ago a DC10 landed in Belgium instead of Holland due to crew error.

If memory serves well, it was a FRA bound Northwest. Looks both airports have a rwy 25R


User currently offlineChristopherwoo From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6063 times:

Quoting VC-10 (Reply 2):
What is the significance of the a/c type?

Because obviously if it was the far more superiour boeing aircraft there would be a "caution, you are about to land on the wrong runway" haha  Wink


User currently offlineValcory From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6028 times:

I think the title of the tread is misleading were the pilots working for Airbus??

User currently offlineBigJimFX From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5660 times:

I'm just wondering why ATC waited untill AFTER the plane landed to tell them they landed at the wrong airport.


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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9523 posts, RR: 42
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5648 times:

Quoting BigJimFX (Reply 13):
I'm just wondering why ATC waited untill AFTER the plane landed to tell them they landed at the wrong airport.

The crew reported that they'd landed and ATC knew it wasn't at their airport so deduced they'd landed at the wrong airport.


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5565 times:

Good piece of advice to aircrew upon sighting the airport:

Don't abandon the approach!


Years ago a corportate/135 pilot told me about taking the jet away from the captain at LAX with a huge celebrity passenger in the back. The captain was on the ILS to the south side, broke out at about 1600 feet, saw the lights of "The Forum" parking lot and dove for them.

Don't abandon the approach.



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User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5237 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 7):
The field of intended landing was RAP, however they inded up landing at RCA...big oops. I will surmise that the base commander at Ellsworth Air Force Base had a few choice words with the flight crew eek

I thought they were intending to land at Minot not Rapid City.Are you speaking about the Northwest Airbus?????....My former co-worker's husband was stationed at Ellsworth AF base and the commercial airport nearby was Minot.....NOT Rapid City....

Just an observation...

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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks ago) and read 5233 times:

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 16):
I thought they were intending to land at Minot not Rapid City.Are you speaking about the Northwest Airbus?????....My former co-worker's husband was stationed at Ellsworth AF base and the commercial airport nearby was Minot.....NOT Rapid City....

Just an observation...

Perhaps this map will help! Minot AFB is near Minot ND, not Rapid City, SD. Google is an amazing tool, if you use it!


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6343 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5152 times:

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 16):
I thought they were intending to land at Minot not Rapid City.Are you speaking about the Northwest Airbus?????....My former co-worker's husband was stationed at Ellsworth AF base and the commercial airport nearby was Minot.....NOT Rapid City....

Having have been both places (Minot and Rapid City), I can assure you that 1) Ellsworth AFB is in Rapid City and 2) Minot, North Dakota is no where near Rapid City, South Dakota. This is the problem with third-handed information...  Wink



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User currently offlineCobra27 From Slovenia, joined May 2001, 1009 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4803 times:

Why did you call the topic Airbus lands at the wrong runway? Like the airbus landed by themselve

User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4781 times:

Quoting Cobra27 (Reply 19):
Why did you call the topic Airbus lands at the wrong runway? Like the airbus landed by themselve


The plane work functioned perfectly. It was the pilots that malfunctioned. That is why that after the plane landed they replaced the malfunctioning part of the plane (the pilots) and the plane flew to the correct airport.

[Edited 2007-02-01 21:47:06]

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