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A320 FWD Flight Attendant Panel?  
User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1480 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11941 times:

I noticed on the Airbus A320 (as well as -318, -319, -321) that at the 1L door above the FWD jumpseat is a panel with lots of buttons. The Boeing 737 does not have all of this, just a few light switches but this panel appears to control many things. What exactly can be controlled from this panel? Anyone have a closeup picture?


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User currently offlineTlfd29 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11930 times:

From what I've seen there are lighting controls, PA system controls, and I believe I have seen music volume controls on that panel as well. Of course I only see them at 0400 when I go into the cabin to put the aircraft in ditch mode, so I might not be totally with it at that time of the morning.

User currently offlineWing From Turkey, joined Oct 2000, 1573 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 11849 times:

Quoting WNCrew (Thread starter):
The Boeing 737 does not have all of this,

B737 does not have many wondersful things that the A320 family has,as the Boeing officials keep travelling by Airbus planes,they soon will adopt this panel to B airplanes like they did many of the other great inventions of Airbus.

(Oh my god I just made an A vs B comment didnt I  Wow! )

As for the Fwd Attendant panel,there is swithces to adjust lighting,check water levels etc,Chief attendant also can adjust the cabin temp without entering to the cockpit and can see if all the doors slides are armed or not.Its a big touchscreen panel same as it is installed on A330s and A340s.

[Edited 2007-03-17 11:26:58]


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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4022 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 11819 times:

Quoting Wing (Reply 2):
Chief attendant also can adjust the cabin temp without entering to the cockpit

Not on our A320s. There is a cabin temp indication, but no control.
Perhaps you thinking of B777 where there is temp control on this panel.
The CIDS panel controls everything in the cabin.
At the top is cabin temp ind. Under that are controls for cabin lighting.
Under that are the controls for Boarding music and pre-recorded announcements.
Under that are indicators for water and toilet tank qty
Then at the bottom a row of buttons for toilet smoke warning, and emergency lights, and emergency door exits.
Just to the left of this panel is a little door, and in there are the controls.
If the red warning light is on on the CIDS panel, this control panel will tell you why.
There is a facility for testing all the lights in the cabin, and checking the bottle pressures in the door slides and emergency evacuation cylinders. You can also reset the CIDS here when it freezes.

The video system is separate. Ours is opposite the CIDS panel on the bulkhead to the right of L1 door as you go in.


User currently offlineWing From Turkey, joined Oct 2000, 1573 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 11816 times:

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 3):
Perhaps you thinking of B777 where there is temp control on this panel.

No, actually I have never knew that 777 has feauture like this.

We also have the "older" A320 models as you mentioned but as our "brand new" models arrives,these new ones equipped with a temperature control on the FWD attendant panel,it can be overridden by the cockpit and it only has an authority to control the temp up to 3 degrees but still the FA can adjust the temp.

[Edited 2007-03-17 13:54:01]


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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9149 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 11816 times:

Quoting Wing (Reply 2):

As for the Fwd Attendant panel,there is swithces to adjust lighting,check water levels etc,Chief attendant also can adjust the cabin temp without entering to the cockpit and can see if all the doors slides are armed or not.Its a big touchscreen panel same as it is installed on A330s and A340s

Not always a touch screen LCD, that depends on the mod level at build time.



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User currently offlineWing From Turkey, joined Oct 2000, 1573 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 11813 times:

Quoting Zeke (Reply 5):
Not always a touch screen LCD, that depends on the mod level at build time.

Right, I should have mentioned "all Turkish Airlines' A330/340s" all our A340 airplanes undergone some modifications recently and A330 s came factory fresh this way.



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User currently offlinePihero From France, joined Jan 2005, 4585 posts, RR: 77
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11734 times:
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Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 3):
f attendant also can adjust the cabin temp without entering to the cockpit

Not on our A320s. There is a cabin temp indication, but no control.

As the CIDS on our aircraft do have a cabin temp control , it could be an airline option.
Very good feature as it azllows the purser to regulate the different zone temperatures some 3 to 5 degrees on both sides of the cockpit air cond setting.



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User currently offlineWexCan From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11727 times:

Older A32X series aircraft have a simple push-button panel.

At U2, all of our A319s are fitted with touchscreen FAPs. There are several hardkeys underneath for emergency lighting, evac signals, lav maint (switches lav lighting to 100% with door open), screen lock (locks touchscreen for cleaning) etc etc.

At the bottom of the screen are several softkeys that bring you to various systems pages. These are as follows:

- Audio - allows boarding music channels and volume to be selected, pre recorded PAs can be selected and put in a "memo" list to play.
- Lights - has settings for galley and aisle lights (BRT 100%, DIM1 50%, DIM2 10%), window lights (on/off), reading lights (all on/off).
- Temp - can control temperature in FWD and AFT cabin.
- Doors/Slides - can see status of all doors - eg open/disarmed, closed/disarmed, closed/armed.
- Smoke - shows status of smoke detectors in lavs.
- Water/Waste - shows levels in water and waste tanks.
- Seat setting - allows chimes to be inhibited (in entire cabin or you can inhibit call bells from individual rows), individual reading lights can be turned on/off, all call bells can be reset, etc.

There's a "screen off" softkey that puts on an "easyJet" screensaver and a "cabin status" softkey that gives an at-a-glance look at all systems.

I have pictures somewhere, will have a look and post them if I can find them.


User currently offlineAOMlover From Singapore, joined Jul 2001, 1305 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 11548 times:


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Here are some shots of the touchscreen I managed to grab...sorry for the very poor quality, but you get the idea...


User currently offlineIFixPlanes From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11456 times:

Quoting WexCan (Reply 8):
I have pictures somewhere, will have a look and post them if I can find them.

Sorry to slow... Big grin

This panel is part of the new CIDS System (Optional)

CIDS Status


CIDS Audio


CIDS Cabin Lighting


CIDS Cabin Temperature


CIDS Doors


CIDS System Info


CIDS WaterWaste



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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4022 posts, RR: 33
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11413 times:

Thats what I like about this forum, you learn something every week.
I have worked on A320 since 1988 when I saw nbr 4 being delivered from Toulouse
but I have never seen a touch screen CIDS panel.
It looks better than the B777 touch screen panel
and O look fwd to seeing one.


User currently offlineAidoair From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 11404 times:

Quoting WexCan (Reply 8):
- Lights - has settings for galley and aisle lights (BRT 100%, DIM1 50%, DIM2 10%), window lights (on/off), reading lights (all on/off).

Just out of interest, does the 737 or at least the 737NG have similar or the same cabin lighting modes?

Thanks.

Aidoair  Smile


User currently offlineWexCan From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days ago) and read 11337 times:

Quoting Aidoair (Reply 12):
Just out of interest, does the 737 or at least the 737NG have similar or the same cabin lighting modes?

Our 73Gs have the following:

Ceiling lights - Bright, Medium, Dim, Night, Off
Window lights - Bright, dim, off
Entry/galley lights - Bright, dim, off.

Difficult to describe the settings, apart from the fact that bright has lighting on 100% and night is the usual takeoff/landing dim mode, leaving what I can only describe as pencil points of light being cast onto the ceiling leaving the lighting quite soft.

All the A319 lighting transitions quite smoothly - ie you turn ceiling lights from BRT to DIM2, it takes a few seconds and visibly dims, wheras with the 73G the change is instant. Similarly, on the A319 the reading lights come on gradually, as if someone is twisting a dimmer switch, wheras on the 73G they come on instantly.

This is one of the minor annoyances of A32x series aircraft - everything is delayed by a few seconds. You press a call bell, and the chime won;t sound for 2-3 seconds. You dim the lights, and it takes a few seconds to do it. Passengers press the reading light button and because of the delay think it hasn;t worked so they keep on pressing it.


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