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User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6262 times:

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for informations regarding the MTOW (Maximum Take Off Weight) of the MD-11s.

When the MD-11 production was launched, only three versions were available with their respective MTOW: Passenger - 273,366kg / 602,500lb; Combi - 276,769kg / 610,000lb ; Freighter - 276,769kg / 610,000lb.

Then, in 1991, MP launched the MD-11CF version (283,575kg / 625,000lb)

When it appeared that the aircraft had range shortfalls, the manufacturer embarked itself on a Performance Improvement Programme which lasted several years and produced at the same time some different MTOW specifications for the trijet.

For instance and AFAIK, Swissair fleet of MD-11 was composed of 16 newly delivered aircraft, perhaps with different MTOW depending of the date of delivery, but all upgraded to MD-11AH with 285,990kg / 630,500 lb MTOW; plus the four ex. LTU which had a lower MTOW.

I've found details for Varig Logistica two MD-11Fs, as well as for those of Transmile and Saudi Arabian. Regarding SV MD-11Fs, the airline's web site shows that they have a MTOW of 286,848kg / 632,500lb. I'm slightly doubtful about these numbers for a take off weight, and perhaps are they correct for a Maximum Taxi Weight...

KLM MD-11s have a MTOW of 280,320kg / 618,000lb while those of MP, now freighters only, have the highest MTOW available. Were the MD-11CF modified before being converted to cargo only aircraft ?

In other words, I'm looking to gather as much informations as possible on the MTOW specifications of all MD-11s or all fleets of MD-11s since the first delivery till now. If any of you have older editions of the JP airline fleets book, they may find on it these details. Any good informations (with references) and/or web-links where to find what I'm looking for are welcomed.

Thanks for your help.

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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6258 times:

Try looking here:

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/airports/acaps/md11sec2.pdf


User currently offlineWSOY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6219 times:

All Finnair MD-11s have the 285,990 kgs MTOW at the present.

User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6183 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 1):

I know this one, but I'm looking for details for each aircraft/operators.

Quoting WSOY (Reply 2):

Indeed. The KL and MP details come from the same site you've shared once in another thread.


User currently offline744rules From Belgium, joined Mar 2002, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6178 times:

The EVA have a MTOW of 283722

User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2254 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6151 times:

All of our MD-11s are 630,500 MTGW. ....CC

User currently offline2enginesonly From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6126 times:

Oceansworld,

A couple of corrections:

Quoting OceansWorld (Thread starter):
Then, in 1991, MP launched the MD-11CF version (283,575kg / 625,000lb)

Not true as we received our First MD11 in 1994.
The DC10 that crashed in Faro was replaced by the PH-MCO and we continued flying with the 10 until they were phased out gradually by the MD11 in 1994/95.
The MCO returned to the leasing agency while the other 2 were converted into the very first KDC10 which are still flying at our KLu.

Quoting OceansWorld (Thread starter):
KLM MD-11s have a MTOW of 280,320kg / 618,000lb while those of MP, now freighters only, have the highest MTOW available. Were the MD-11CF modified before being converted to cargo only aircraft ?

Also not true as we still have 4 CF and 3 full freighters.
My company decided that the CF's will never be converted into pax again so they're planning to remove al convertible equipment in time but for now they are still convertible.
They were converted to the higher MTOW during regular D-checks in Zurich but I don't know when this happened exactly.
I've been licensed on our MD11's for about 4 years now so I'm kinda missing the early history.
But I do know that our aircraft leave AMS with MTOW most of the times.....and land with max landingweight as well  Smile

Regards,

Arjan


User currently offlineOceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6118 times:

Quoting CosmicCruiser (Reply 5):
All of our MD-11s are 630,500 MTGW. ....CC

You mean those of FX ?

Quoting 2enginesonly (Reply 6):
Not true as we received our First MD11 in 1994.

When I said "launched", I meant ordered as first customer for the type. And indeed, the first MD-11CF, PH-MCP, was delivered December 2nd, 1994.

Quoting 2enginesonly (Reply 6):
Also not true as we still have 4 CF and 3 full freighters.

Here's my source. Do a search with PH-MCP, and it shows it as an MD-11F.

http://www.newfoundland.nl/cgi-bin/rld_search_uk.cgi?form

Quoting 2enginesonly (Reply 6):
The DC10 that crashed in Faro was replaced by the PH-MCO and we continued flying with the 10 until they were phased out gradually by the MD11 in 1994/95.

PH-MCO came in the fleet January 15th,1993 (less than a month after MBN crashed at FAO - 21/12/1992) after spending many months stuck to the ground at ZRH since Balair withdrew it from its fleet in 1992.
MBP was returned February 2nd, 1995 to its owner since June 1992, your KLu. MBT was also owned by the KLu since June 1992, and was handed-over by MP October 6th, 1994.

Regards.

[Edited 2007-03-22 14:02:27]

User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2254 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6034 times:

Quoting OceansWorld (Reply 7):
You mean those of FX ?

Correct. All are operated in H mode..630.5.


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