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User currently offlineEjaymd11 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 193 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 1170 times:

What improvements whould you make to the MD-11 and why.

Ejay MD-11

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User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6286 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1113 times:

The MD-11 is a great plane as it is. But as many other great planes its basic design dates well over 30 years back in time to a period when large engines were less powerful, ETOPS was unknown, FBW controls was only being tested on the Concorde and military planes, and composite structures were far less advanced.

So for "improving the MD-11" I would simply buy an A330 or B777 instead. That's also what the airline companies do these days.

But the MD-11s, which are already there, they will hopefully cary on for the next twenty years. As it looks today most of them will be cargo converted. They will of course last longer than those DC-10s which during these days are being converted to MD-10 at considerable costs.

The fact that such an extensive modification program is viable, and that 30+ years old DC-8s and DC-9s seem almost impossible to retire, it proves that Douglas (and MD) made high quality planes. Too bad that they couldn't make money on it. They failed to continue development of modern designs during the 70'es and 80'es, and it doomed them in the 90'es. Was is too tense competition, or was it too greedy shareholders? Probably a combination of both.

Best regards, Preben Norholm



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineJT-8D From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 423 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1100 times:

Anyone remember the MD-12x? That got shelved in about 92 or 93..JT

User currently offlineKonaB777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1086 times:

Here's how to improve the MD11:

- shorten it 18 feet
- bigger horiz. stab.
- remove winglets

in short, bring back the DC10 (no MD10 crap). DC10-50, like the MD10 but with passengers.


User currently offlineAmbasaid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1074 times:

KonaB777

Interesting ideas, but why?


User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1053 times:

Good question, but improve in what respect? Reliability, fuel efficiency, improved safety, etc?


You're only as good as your last departure.
User currently offlineEjaymd11 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1047 times:

FDXmech. All of the above. But I want to preserve its personality that some if not most pilots that fly the 11 love about it.

User currently offlineJT-8D From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 423 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1035 times:

Kona, Im with ya dude..JT

User currently offlineDC-10Tech From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 298 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1024 times:

The MD-11 is a great aircraft, so is the -10 for that matter. If it is properly maintained, the reliability rates are astounding. We fly over 96% on time take offs with out fleet...our youngest -10 is 23 years old! If you want a little history on what caused the downfall of Douglas (believe it or not, the DC-10 was a major factor) just go to my page and look under 'history and development' under the DC-10 menu. http://extender1.tripod.com


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User currently offlineJT-8D From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 423 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1020 times:

How many times can one person plug a website? 5 times so far, and still going and going and going..JT

User currently offlineDC-10Tech From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 298 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

That's because my website is geared towards answering these kinds of questions. What's your problem pal? I'm sharing information with fellow enthusiasts, not selling anything. And if you went to the site and read the story, you'd see why I posted the link.


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User currently offlineJT-8D From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 423 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1016 times:

Been to the site, like your resume too. Call me knucklehead again, we will get along just fine. What does acars stand for again?..JT

User currently offlineDC-10Tech From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 298 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1019 times:

Funny, Aircraft/ARINC, I've seen it both ways in the books. Don't make me quote them again!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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