Does someone have a diagram of where this is located in the plane? I've heard a lot of descriptions ("taking stairs", etc), but I can't imagine visually where this rest area is.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 15323 posts, RR: 91 Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
In this picture, that crew rest is ABOVE the ceiling.
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5436 posts, RR: 60 Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
On CO's planes it will be above the passenger area above the 3R door area.
MDL412 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 53 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Above the main-level cabin usually toward the front of the A/C, maybe even over the flightdeck.
Flying_727 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 423 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Some airlines are different. I went on board an Air France 773 out in the factory a while back and there was a crew rest mid cabin, and one of the overhead bin sections was an accent point.
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 675 posts, RR: 54 Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
There are also some pictures in the A.net database of the crew rest module:
UA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 16 Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
These are defiantly cool, however, the Airbus crew rests are 'neat' to me. They are loaded into the cargo hold, same shape and look of a cargo bin, and have a hatch that opens up to a hole in the floor. I guess this is used so that the aircraft can go on short legs, long legs, and I want to say that the crew rest can be moved around the cargo hold when loaded (weight and balance?) [just throwing that out there, might not be right]
Antonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 683 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door
Cgagn From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 339 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Antonovman (Reply 7): I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door
Just proves what a paranoid world we live in when it comes to aviation.
C-GAGN
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The 777 can take an underfloor crew rest area as well. When installed it is at the front of the rear hold.
This is not really a preferred option because it removes revenue capacity from the hold. Whereas the newer overhead rest areas allow for more cargo revenue.
Also some years ago when BA had crew rest areas located in the hold there was an incident where a loading crew tried to remove it and caused substantial damage to the rest area and cargo hold. This was despite large DO NOT REMOVE signs on the rest area.
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Byrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1691 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Antonovman (Reply 7): I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door
The 747: The hands who designed it were guided by god.
Jbmitt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 475 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Antonovman (Reply 7): I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door
I think its fine to share where the crew rest is on the T7s. However, I agree with your logic and personally won't disclose where the crew panic room is located on the T7. There is a difference, the crew rest is for relaxation, and the panic room is for terrorism.
I doubt that anybody would hand over the code to the cockpit door.
Mtsubshe From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 67 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
on emirates there is one all the way in the back, it is before the alley, at the top of the last rows of seats in the middle section of the plane, the doors to the crew rest area is on the left side of the plane where after the last seat on aisle , seat D is
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 675 posts, RR: 54 Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Cgagn (Reply 9): Just proves what a paranoid world we live in when it comes to aviation.
No, just how dumb some people are. This question is basically like asking where is the cockpit, not how to force entrance...
Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 14): Crew rest cabin for B777s can they actually stand inside the rest area? if so amazing how much height they offer considering the fuselage is huge,.
I don't think they can stand upright, but they can sit in unreclined seats...
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 20319 posts, RR: 62 Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting UA777222 (Reply 6): I guess this is used so that the aircraft can go on short legs
It's because there's no other place to put it without taking passenger space. The tradeoff is cargo ability. They turned a drawback into a feature, which is smart, but it's not the best solution.
I think you see carriers like LH and SQ put things in the hold because they have dedicated cargo operations as well so unfloor space isn't quite as vital to their overall operations as it is to someone like QF or CO.
Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3636 posts, RR: 36 Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting BA787 (Reply 8): Do BA have these crew rest areas?
Quite a few of their 777s are equipped with 13 seats in First as opposed to 14 for the most part. The seat that would be 4K is the crew rest. You can see it in the back of a photo I took here: http://www.imagestation.com/4592222/3993012928
I'm not sure where they are on the aircraft with 17 and 14 First seats though. I believe someone has said nearer the back of the aircraft mid section.
Quoting Antonovman (Reply 7): I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door
"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
Jbmitt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 475 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Jbmitt (Reply 12): I think its fine to share where the crew rest is on the T7s. However, I agree with your logic and personally won't disclose where the crew panic room is located on the T7. There is a difference, the crew rest is for relaxation, and the panic room is for terrorism.
I doubt that anybody would hand over the code to the cockpit door.
ManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1177 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting Antonovman (Reply 7): I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door
Ahh the code for the cockpit door. Well that would be 674836 but don't tell anyone ...
RB211LTN From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 133 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
The BA 777's have a cabin crew rest area above the cabin just aft of door 3. There is space for 6 crew. As mentioned earlier the flight deck crew have their own rest area at the back of First. The CC reat area was in the hold on the first few aircraft delivered but it was switched to the overhead area because of the impact on cargo capacity. This only applies to the RR engined 777's, though. The GE ones don't have such long range so there is no need for a rest area. I preferred the underfloor reat area, it is much more stable, although a little noisier. The one in the 747 is noisy and bumpy as it is right down at the back. When the aircraft 'fishtails' you get a bumpy ride. I never slept well on board.
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PlanenutzTB From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 256 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 5): here are also some pictures in the A.net database of the crew rest module:
27 LMP737: That's where a lot of your wiring and ECS ducting is located. Also the chillers for the galley's are located in the overhead. Except for the aft gall
28 Loadsheet: in the Korean Air B777-200 the Crew Rest is located under Door 3 section - access opposite the toilet. The Container has the size of an AAP and is not
30 Bphendri: Darn that King Roland. He told me it was 12345 Now I'm going to have to give that Druish princess back her old nose!!!
31 Aeroman444: Why do you want to know where it is?
32 LimaNiner: Just imagine -- if the 1-in-a-million random number you just picked actually *is* the combo for some cockpit door somewhere, guessing "right" will ea
33 Leebird: in that case, you'd be better off using your incredible luck in Vegas or playing your local lottery, and pay for your "Caribbean vacation" yourself
34 Domokun: ... it would be much easier just to use social engineering. Something tells me an attractive woman could work wonders.
35 Tod: The 777 Door 3 overhead crewrest is near midcabin and so is the KLM 744 Door 4 crewrest. For the crewrests mentioned above, a center lav position is
36 CO777ER: Looking at the picture on the first post, What are the rectangle/circle cut-outs that have straps covering them. If you look at the picture they are n
37 Emirates029: I have never heard of a crew panic room. Does this actually exist?
39 A380US: if they could do this the whole lenfth of the airplane can they sell these as seats?
40 TEBguy: Nope. Lack of emergency exits, etc... Also, would you want to be in a space with no windows, that you cant fully stand up in, for x # of hours?
41 Leebird: other than the windows, this is different from normal in what way? i keed, i keed.[Edited 2007-04-23 05:39:13]
42 Caliatenza: i havent been in a 777 since 2004..but on Malaysian's 747's ive seen a door leading to the crew rest at the rear of the aircraft just next to the lavs
43 Starlionblue: I doubt the walls are thick enough to hide any noise.
44 Tod: In addition to the problems TEBguy mentioned, there is only sufficient room above the ceiling in a few locations. Ducting, fans, filterboxes, electri
45 ElDanno: five too many digits, isn't it? Edit: wow, okay, can't delete it now. sorry for posting on a 2 year old thread, followed a link in error. Sorry, I'm
46 ata757300: what is a crew panic room how many people does it hold is there only one acees door and is only available on the 777
47 tdscanuck: I've never heard of a crew panic room on any commercial airliner...if the 777 has one, it's an aftermarket option and doesn't come from the factory.
48 SPREE34: You need to consider a career change. Really. You'll live a longer happier life. Yes it does. Also, that "they" won. LMAO. Some people were put on ea
50 kanban: with people paying premium for enclosed lay flat seats and iffy window accessibility, the only problem would be emergency evacuation... how about a l
51 SP90: +1 I would so pay for one of those beds on a 16hr EWR-HKG flight.
52 ctempleton3: If they are a joke why did they delete the thread?
53 aklrno: Maybe wilco or some NZ pilot can answer this for me: The flight deck on the 744's I ride on NZ seems to have a private lav and a seat or two for the f
55 tod: Most 744 have a crew rest on the left just aft of the flight deck. It can have a seat, two bunks or a combination. On the right side, the flight deck
56 sutrakhk: View from Door L1 of CX77W And the bunk is over the First Class PS: Do anyone know where is the crew bunk of flight crew of EK's later batch 77W and
57 Soxfan: A few years ago I flew on an AA 777 that had a big structure in the center of the cabin between rows 27 and 30. Seat Guru doesn't give it any markings
58 hal9213: Yes, it is in the aft streching completely above the last economy cabin section, and looks very similar to the photo in reply 49. The entrance is bet
59 tod: Do you know if its an OEM or aftermarket product?
60 JA8119: By the way, can the 8-bunk version cabin crew rest used on the 77W be installed on the 77E or 77L, which usually have a 6-bunk one?
61 KingFriday013: Here are some photos showing what it looks like from the cabin. Where the overhead bins appear lower is where the crew rest is located. -J.
62 Magcheck: I hope they have flight controls in the panic room.....
63 PC12Fan: A another pic..... http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers...ive/2003/june/photos/june_ca1a.jpg Came across this link of a system by B/E Aerospace. http:
64 330guy: On a certian airline that flys transatlantic the number pads on the cockpit doors have the numbers 1 to 9 in perfect condition and the number 0 faded
65 hal9213: Do you mean the ICE in the crewrest? I dont know, but in the case of seats, its line-fit (and also retro) with Sicma and Panasonic equipment. I guess
66 tod: No. The first 777 overhead crew rests were an aftermarket product and a retrofit installation. Later Boeing designed their own and they were part pla
67 tod: The B/E (Flight Structures Inc) 777 door 3 crewrest was a nice product. (I am bias since I was one of the design engineers) Unfortunately after about
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