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Where Is The Crew Rest Area In A 777?  
User currently offlineJawed From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 468 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 19812 times:
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I've heard a lot about the crew rest area in 777's:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1061577/L/

Does someone have a diagram of where this is located in the plane? I've heard a lot of descriptions ("taking stairs", etc), but I can't imagine visually where this rest area is.

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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 13906 posts, RR: 88
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 19866 times:

In this picture, that crew rest is ABOVE the ceiling.



Boeing photo.

NS

User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From Canada, joined May 2006, 5347 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 19837 times:

On CO's planes it will be above the passenger area above the 3R door area.


You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineMDL412 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 19816 times:

Above the main-level cabin usually toward the front of the A/C, maybe even over the flightdeck.

User currently offlineFlying_727 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 393 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 19748 times:

Some airlines are different. I went on board an Air France 773 out in the factory a while back and there was a crew rest mid cabin, and one of the overhead bin sections was an accent point.

flying_727

User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 39 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 19648 times:

There are also some pictures in the A.net database of the crew rest module:


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It's worth nothing that some 777 customers still use the under-floor module as well. I believe Singapore is one such airline.

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2873 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 19573 times:
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These are defiantly cool, however, the Airbus crew rests are 'neat' to me. They are loaded into the cargo hold, same shape and look of a cargo bin, and have a hatch that opens up to a hole in the floor. I guess this is used so that the aircraft can go on short legs, long legs, and I want to say that the crew rest can be moved around the cargo hold when loaded (weight and balance?) [just throwing that out there, might not be right]

Thanks!


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User currently offlineAntonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 584 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 19441 times:

I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door

User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 19370 times:
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Quoting Antonovman (Reply 7):

Hardly Big grin

Do BA have these crew rest areas?

User currently offlineCgagn From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 19303 times:

Quoting Antonovman (Reply 7):
I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door

Just proves what a paranoid world we live in when it comes to aviation.

C-GAGN


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User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 19289 times:

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 6):

The 777 can take an underfloor crew rest area as well. When installed it is at the front of the rear hold.

This is not really a preferred option because it removes revenue capacity from the hold. Whereas the newer overhead rest areas allow for more cargo revenue.

Also some years ago when BA had crew rest areas located in the hold there was an incident where a loading crew tried to remove it and caused substantial damage to the rest area and cargo hold. This was despite large DO NOT REMOVE signs on the rest area.


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User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1230 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 19086 times:

Quoting Antonovman (Reply 7):
I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door

 Yeah sure


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User currently offlineJbmitt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 434 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 19018 times:

Quoting Antonovman (Reply 7):
I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door

I think its fine to share where the crew rest is on the T7s. However, I agree with your logic and personally won't disclose where the crew panic room is located on the T7. There is a difference, the crew rest is for relaxation, and the panic room is for terrorism.

I doubt that anybody would hand over the code to the cockpit door.

User currently offlineMtsubshe From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 18847 times:

on emirates there is one all the way in the back, it is before the alley, at the top of the last rows of seats in the middle section of the plane, the doors to the crew rest area is on the left side of the plane where after the last seat on aisle , seat D is

User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 18845 times:
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On Air Canada's brand new B777-200LR and B777-300ER their crew rests are forward and aft cabin above the ceiling.

Crew rest cabin for B777s can they actually stand inside the rest area? if so amazing how much height they offer considering the fuselage is huge,.

User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 39 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 18704 times:

Quoting Cgagn (Reply 9):
Just proves what a paranoid world we live in when it comes to aviation.

No, just how dumb some people are. This question is basically like asking where is the cockpit, not how to force entrance...

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 14):
Crew rest cabin for B777s can they actually stand inside the rest area? if so amazing how much height they offer considering the fuselage is huge,.

I don't think they can stand upright, but they can sit in unreclined seats...

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 18610 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 17080 times:

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 6):
I guess this is used so that the aircraft can go on short legs

It's because there's no other place to put it without taking passenger space. The tradeoff is cargo ability. They turned a drawback into a feature, which is smart, but it's not the best solution.

I think you see carriers like LH and SQ put things in the hold because they have dedicated cargo operations as well so unfloor space isn't quite as vital to their overall operations as it is to someone like QF or CO.

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 14):
can they actually stand inside the rest area

Depends on who "they" are. I couldn't. My cousin probably could. She's 4'11.


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User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3448 posts, RR: 34
Reply 17, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 16929 times:

Quoting BA787 (Reply 8):
Do BA have these crew rest areas?

Quite a few of their 777s are equipped with 13 seats in First as opposed to 14 for the most part. The seat that would be 4K is the crew rest. You can see it in the back of a photo I took here:
http://www.imagestation.com/4592222/3993012928

I'm not sure where they are on the aircraft with 17 and 14 First seats though. I believe someone has said nearer the back of the aircraft mid section.

Quoting Antonovman (Reply 7):
I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door

 Yeah sure


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User currently offlineJbmitt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 434 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 16632 times:

Quoting Jbmitt (Reply 12):
I think its fine to share where the crew rest is on the T7s. However, I agree with your logic and personally won't disclose where the crew panic room is located on the T7. There is a difference, the crew rest is for relaxation, and the panic room is for terrorism.

I doubt that anybody would hand over the code to the cockpit door.

Looks like somebody took the bate:
Crew Panic Rooms
http://airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/3336297/

User currently offlineManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 16368 times:

Quoting Antonovman (Reply 7):
I know its been well documented but I still feel a bit nervous when people ask questions like this ? Its like asking for the code of the cockpit door

Ahh the code for the cockpit door. Well that would be 674836 but don't tell anyone ...

 Wink


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User currently offlineRB211LTN From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 15851 times:
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The BA 777's have a cabin crew rest area above the cabin just aft of door 3. There is space for 6 crew. As mentioned earlier the flight deck crew have their own rest area at the back of First. The CC reat area was in the hold on the first few aircraft delivered but it was switched to the overhead area because of the impact on cargo capacity. This only applies to the RR engined 777's, though. The GE ones don't have such long range so there is no need for a rest area. I preferred the underfloor reat area, it is much more stable, although a little noisier. The one in the 747 is noisy and bumpy as it is right down at the back. When the aircraft 'fishtails' you get a bumpy ride. I never slept well on board.


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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 2427 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 15575 times:

Quoting RB211LTN (Reply 20):
The BA 777's have a cabin crew rest area above the cabin just aft of door 3. There is space for 6 crew.

How do the crew go up to these overhead rest areas....? A staircase or a ladder or something? Anyone for pics of the access ladder or staircase....?  smile 

User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 15389 times:

I don't know where is located, but here is another pic, Alitalia 777 ( I-DISE):


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User currently offlineFlexo From St. Helena, joined Mar 2007, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 15372 times:

Since the crew rest area seems to be only in the front / back part of the aircraft, what is the overhead space in the rest of the plane used for?

User currently offlinePlanenutzTB From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 256 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 15201 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 5):
here are also some pictures in the A.net database of the crew rest module:

View Large View MediumPhoto © Rafael Cordero - AeroImagenes de MexicoView Large View MediumPhoto © Unmuth-AirTeamImages VAP

It's worth nothing that some 777 customers still use the under-floor module as well. I believe Singapore is one such airline.

In the photo on the right, there is something with a door with glass (left side of photo), is that a washing machine?


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25 MCIGuy: It looks more like a small oven to me.
26 Jholiiday: Wiring, ductwork, avionics, etc.
27 LMP737: That's where a lot of your wiring and ECS ducting is located. Also the chillers for the galley's are located in the overhead. Except for the aft gall
28 Loadsheet: in the Korean Air B777-200 the Crew Rest is located under Door 3 section - access opposite the toilet. The Container has the size of an AAP and is not
29 MCOflyer: Where will FX place theirs? MCOflyer
30 Bphendri: Darn that King Roland. He told me it was 12345 Now I'm going to have to give that Druish princess back her old nose!!!
31 Aeroman444: Why do you want to know where it is?
32 LimaNiner: Just imagine -- if the 1-in-a-million random number you just picked actually *is* the combo for some cockpit door somewhere, guessing "right" will ea
33 Post contains images Leebird: in that case, you'd be better off using your incredible luck in Vegas or playing your local lottery, and pay for your "Caribbean vacation" yourself
34 Domokun: ... it would be much easier just to use social engineering. Something tells me an attractive woman could work wonders.
35 Tod: The 777 Door 3 overhead crewrest is near midcabin and so is the KLM 744 Door 4 crewrest. For the crewrests mentioned above, a center lav position is
36 CO777ER: Looking at the picture on the first post, What are the rectangle/circle cut-outs that have straps covering them. If you look at the picture they are n
37 Emirates029: I have never heard of a crew panic room. Does this actually exist?
38 Jbmitt: Its a joke..they don't exist.
39 A380US: if they could do this the whole lenfth of the airplane can they sell these as seats?
40 TEBguy: Nope. Lack of emergency exits, etc... Also, would you want to be in a space with no windows, that you cant fully stand up in, for x # of hours?
41 Leebird: other than the windows, this is different from normal in what way? i keed, i keed.[Edited 2007-04-23 05:39:13]
42 Post contains images Caliatenza: i havent been in a 777 since 2004..but on Malaysian's 747's ive seen a door leading to the crew rest at the rear of the aircraft just next to the lavs
43 Post contains images Starlionblue: I doubt the walls are thick enough to hide any noise.
44 Tod: In addition to the problems TEBguy mentioned, there is only sufficient room above the ceiling in a few locations. Ducting, fans, filterboxes, electri
45 ElDanno: five too many digits, isn't it? Edit: wow, okay, can't delete it now. sorry for posting on a 2 year old thread, followed a link in error. Sorry, I'm
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