ATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2558 posts, RR: 34 Posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9012 times:
Question for anyone who knows anything about em.
I recently looked at a Navion for sale. Decently priced for what I could see.
$49,000 for the 205HP version. 1200SMOH. 2 NAV/COM's attached to VOR/LOC (No GS). Will have current annual.
I just done know much about em? I was looking for a nice Cherokee 140/180 or a Grumman Cheetah, but this seems to me to be a faster aircraft. (Obviously more money due to maintenance because its rarer and its complex).
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6818 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8993 times:
I worked for a guy at an FBO who was a Navion affecionado...they are big, Cadillac-sized planes.
This guy would buy up old, dilapidated planes and restore them at our FBO. Nowdays, I think he just trades them...
If the plane is located at LRU, chances are that it's one of Hal's birds
Now, to the reality of the bird...they are, of course, a retract, and the insurance rates reflect that (the gear goes up along with the insurance rates ). They tend to use the older high performance Continental powerplants and old props...makes things a little expensive to fix, and they burn a good quantity of gas to get to where they're going.
The owners love them...apparently, they are a rock-solid, stay where you point them kind of bird.
Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
Lowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8870 times:
The only thing I can remember is that the gear is hydraulically actuated and the system is somewhat complicated. It would be impossible to overstate the importance of finding a mechanic who is familiar with the type. Even if it costs more it can save you money down the line. With any aircraft of that age, corrosion is a concern, unless it spent its entire life in the desert. Also, has the aircraft been converted to AC, or is it still DC? If you go forward with a pre-buy inspection, I would be sure to get an oil anaylisis. If you like the Navion, you might also like the Meyers...
Have you considered a Cherokee 235/Challenger? They are reasonably quick and have a good payload.
Either way, I am sure you will enjoy it. I am surprised that no one else has asked for pictures yet.
The funny thing is, a modern carrier could produce enough wind over the deck to allow the 152 pilot to take off with a ground roll of zero feet....although, come to think of it, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the same held true for the Navion...
Pilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3164 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8809 times:
Navions are hangar queens for the most part. My former employers had a couple that they did mx on and they were constantly in for little work. One had major corrosion problems. The other had all kinds of landing gear issues.
They look really cool, and they're damn big. However the tradeoff for that size is that they're slow and burn lots of gas. While the 235 doesn't have the cool factor that the Navion does it's a workhorse that will haul anything you can squeeze into it, it's predictable and you'll find a mechanic that knows how to work on them anywhere in the country.