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User currently offlineJetpilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6426 times:

Check this video. Look closely at the 747. I has 2 engine on one nacelle. Anyone know anything about it? It also has external fuel tanks on the outer pylons. Does this thing fly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XClK8qS79Bg

JET

[Edited 2007-05-17 12:19:01]

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User currently offlineLegs From Australia, joined Jun 2006, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6419 times:

Check this thread from a while back:

RE: What Is It? (by ANCFlyer Mar 8 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Its a modified 747 used in the movie Casino Royale


User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6413 times:

Damn... I thought it might be a repost. Thanks for the info.

JET


User currently offlineB78710 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6410 times:

stationed at dunsfold airfield.....where they film top gear also!

User currently offlineLegs From Australia, joined Jun 2006, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6406 times:

Not a problem at all, glad to help

User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8861 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6404 times:

Quoting Jetpilot (Thread starter):
Check this video. Look closely at the 747. I has 2 engine on one nacelle. Anyone know anything about it?

It is the Skyfleet airplane prototype from the James Bond Casino Royale movie.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...47-xxx-on-show-ahead-of-movie.html



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User currently offlineLegs From Australia, joined Jun 2006, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6397 times:

I actually kinda like the idea, kinda like a 747 and a B-52's lovechild! Not so sure about its feasibility in the real world though.

User currently offlineTommyBP251b From Germany, joined Apr 2006, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6312 times:

Hi Guys!

Never forget that there were more things in the movie than you can see on the pictures.

1. It had 747-400 Winglets
2. It had a stretched upper deck
3. and on the side, it looked like the part of the A380 with all the airline stickers of the buyers as you can see in on the last picture of the link above.

Best Regards. Tom



Tom from Cologne
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24786 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6100 times:

Quoting Legs (Reply 6):
I actually kinda like the idea, kinda like a 747 and a B-52's lovechild! Not so sure about its feasibility in the real world though.

It worked on the B-47. First flight 60 years ago, December 17, 1947. Over 2000 built through 1957. I think it was the first production aircraft with jet engines suspended on pylons below the wings. Provided a lot of inspiration for subsequent Boeing types, military and commercial.


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User currently offlineLegs From Australia, joined Jun 2006, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5967 times:

Good point, but I was thinking more along the lines of the commercial world where the almighty dollar reigns supreme. I would imagine that a dual engine pod would make maintenance a bit of a headache, or at the very least you would need two different accessory configurations for the engines

User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1982 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5937 times:

Quoting B78710 (Reply 3):
stationed at dunsfold airfield.....where they film top gear also!
Did anyone see the Top Gear episode where they were testing out tractors and Jeromy decided to pull the 747 with his tractor haha!

Edit: WOW thats embarrassing... the link is the Top Gear episode in where they do it... I should click the links before posting...

[Edited 2007-05-18 05:00:29]


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User currently offlineRwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2310 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 5902 times:
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Another issue for a commercial aircraft with pairs of engines in a pod would be certification requirements in case of engine failures. I don't know if any standards currently exist, but I could easily see that the regulators might hesitate to count those two engines as completely separate. Just think if you had a fire in one of them - could you really expect not to shut down the other engine in the same pod?

Also, as I understand it, the B-52 experience (admittedly built to rather different standards) is that the failure of the second engine in the pod is more-or-less assumed (not that it always happens, of course), and the aircraft is flown more like a quad.

You'd probably be able to certify an aircraft with four engines in two pods on more-or-less that same basis as a twin, but then you'd end up with the worst of both worlds - a quads fuel consumption, and a twins need for extra power. You might find a situation with an extremely large aircraft where the lack of suitable single engines might make that a practical option (for example a 2.5 million pound aircraft with eight GE-90s in four pods). Much smaller than that, and you could just build an ordinary quad.


User currently offline3MilesTOWro From Poland, joined Mar 2006, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5852 times:

Quoting Rwessel (Reply 11):
Another issue for a commercial aircraft with pairs of engines in a pod would be certification requirements in case of engine failures. I don't know if any standards currently exist

Well, Il-62s keep flying. So did Concordes not so long ago.


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