Ydna_anderson From Philippines, joined Jun 2001, 41 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2213 times:
this question may probably be outdated by now, but im really interested in kai tak international airport, hong kong. im really interested on how the pilot lines up the plane before the checkerboard, and what happens during the turn and the landing..... why is it that in the pictures posted in this site, the airplanes seem to be to the left of the runway before they touchdown? thanks a lot =)
B767-400er From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2000, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2126 times:
Yep, Ils was aimed from 088Mag., and on final, a 47 degree left turn to the runway's true heading of 131mag.
In regrads to the orginal question, well, the second one anyway, the reason could be pilots don't bank the aircraft enough during the turn, and end up a little a little left of center line. Sometimes, they realize that during the turn, and will end up like this:
Cx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6693 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2109 times:
Ah the good old days!!! Seeing an SQ pilot fly the IGS with a 40kt tailwind in a typhoon, do 4 (FOUR!!) approaches then divert!! Seeing cargo planes land 45 degrees to the dentrline of the runway....near collisions with the tower...miscalculated heavyweight takeoffs from both Runway 13 and 31 (Scary!!).
I'm surprised that after all that, Kai Tak was a very safe airport with few incidents......CLK had a crash in the first year of operations!!!
Ryu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2062 times:
What would be procedure be in instrument meterological conditions, where you don't have visual reference to the runway? How would you judge the right turn after you disengage the AP on the IGS approach if you can't see the runway? I only flew into HKG once under those conditions, and it was when I was very young so I don't remember the specifics.
N949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2036 times:
Simple................if you still don't see the approach lights and the runway by the middle marker, it's a MANDATORY go-around. The standard Jeppersen's charts make it quite clear with the warning that "............failure to do so can lead to loss of terrain clearance".
Ambasaid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2035 times:
Arent you forgetting about the 2 ILS systems which brought you into the approach, the first one was aimed straight at the checkerboard, the second one lined up with the runway. The lead-in approach strobe lights showed you the turn between the two.