MidEx216 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 651 posts, RR: 4 Posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2480 times:
One day, I was driving to work at MKE. I was heading south on I-43, which is crossed over by planes on approach to rwy 7R. As I came up to the exit, I looked up and saw an AA ERJ right above the highway, headed towards me, and then it banked hard right to line up for a one mile final. I went in to work and there was nothing known to be wrong, so I was curious why ATC (or whoever was the cause) would get this plane set up with a 1 mile final with no other traffic, and no emergency situation?
N243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1575 posts, RR: 21 Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2442 times:
Kai Tak practice?
I've experienced this type of approach in the Embraer several times, though probably not to the extent that you mention. I remember a tight 180 just north of MKE at night and a very short final to 19R, which was quite fun. It seems that traffic using the 12s at STL often experience quite a short final approach. Can't say why, however.
Mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 74 Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2184 times:
Ever seen a 767 break off a turn OVER the runway on approach and touchdown at the 1000ft markers? (WAAA Britannia 767 a few years back...)
A 1 mile final is no big deal for an ERJ under visual conditions.
As long as you're configured by 500ft AGL and speeds within your config banking and approach speed deviation limits... no big deal apart from a few drops of sweat...
Had a nice visual approach on LH 742 @ BKK some years back, we didn't have our wings level until we were over the fence... at it was a tight turn to final, and easing the bank as we got lower...
On visual approaches like that, it can be up to the pilot on how tight he wants to pull the turn to final...
When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
N231YE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1970 times:
Several things can cause this, separation being the thing that comes to mind...
I have done short finals (visual) in a 172, but it was because a Citation or just a faster a/c (sometimes on ILS) was coming in to land...basically, it was a way for ATC to "squeeze me in" for a landing.
Pilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2518 posts, RR: 48 Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1733 times:
you can do anything you want with an airplane....stabilized approach is a term that is misused by many many people....
when an approach is stabilized, it doesn't mean the aircraft is not banking or pitching anymore...stabilized means you have the plane doing EXACTLY what you want....otherwise if you hit a gust at 200AGL you'd need to go around....so you can basically come in anyway you want, as long as you're in control....
it's usually just an airline's SOP that limits everything...for example in imc gear and flaps must be in landing config by 1000 and 500 for vmc
The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!