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User currently offline8B775ZQ From St. Kitts and Nevis, joined Aug 2005, 239 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

What are the different variants of the B767. Also what are the different ranges for each variant.

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User currently offlineAcey From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 1051 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2269 times:

767-200 - 5,200 nm (9,400 km) transatlantic
767-200ER - 6,590 nm(12,200 km)transpacific
767-300 - 5,230 nm (9,700 km) transatlantic
767-300ER - 5,975 nm (11,065 km) transpacific
767-300F - 3,255 nm (6,025 km) transcontinental
767-400ER - 5,625 nm (10,415 km)transpacific

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_767



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User currently offline8B775ZQ From St. Kitts and Nevis, joined Aug 2005, 239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

How is it that the 767-200ER manages to have more range than the 763, 763ER and 764? Is it that these planes are much heavier than the 762ER?

User currently offlineXT6Wagon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 3432 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2231 times:

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/airports/plan_manuals.html

only place you need to go for info. Be aware that many of the documents have english -> metric conversion errors in some places, so either just use the english numbers or double check the conversion before using. All boeing planes are done in english units so assume those are correct.


User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4071 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

Quoting 8B775ZQ (Reply 2):
How is it that the 767-200ER manages to have more range than the 763, 763ER and 764? Is it that these planes are much heavier than the 762ER?

Same fuel tanks, smaller (lighter) plane


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17185 posts, RR: 66
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

Quoting 8B775ZQ (Reply 2):
How is it that the 767-200ER manages to have more range than the 763, 763ER and 764? Is it that these planes are much heavier than the 762ER?

Yes. The same wing mounted on a heavier airframe tends to give shorter range. The raked wingtips on the 764 compensate but not all the way

If you look at most aircraft, the stretches tend to have shorter range, all other things being equal. However, a stretch has more room for ventral fuel tanks.



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User currently offlineAcey From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 1051 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

Quoting 8B775ZQ (Reply 2):
How is it that the 767-200ER manages to have more range than the 763, 763ER and 764? Is it that these planes are much heavier than the 762ER?

It seems to me, though, that 763ER's are used on longer stage lengths than the 762ER. AC has both of the type, but the 762ER mostly flies within the domestic system. Their longest routes (the nearly 4,900 nm YVR-PVG and the 5,000+ nm YYZ-TLV) are operated by 763ER.



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17185 posts, RR: 66
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2126 times:

Quoting Acey (Reply 6):
It seems to me, though, that 763ER's are used on longer stage lengths than the 762ER. AC has both of the type, but the 762ER mostly flies within the domestic system. Their longest routes (the nearly 4,900 nm YVR-PVG and the 5,000+ nm YYZ-TLV) are operated by 763ER.

Sure, but this is more of an operator thing. They may need the 300 for capacity and the ER version for range. Even at 5000nm you are not close to max range for the 763ER.

It's not always a perfect fit.



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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1966 times:

Quoting Acey (Reply 6):
It seems to me, though, that 763ER's are used on longer stage lengths than the 762ER. AC has both of the type, but the 762ER mostly flies within the domestic system. Their longest routes (the nearly 4,900 nm YVR-PVG and the 5,000+ nm YYZ-TLV) are operated by 763ER.

For one, the 767-200s generally are older (minus the case of CO). DL, for example, used to fly the 767-200 but it was a non-ER version. TWA and American used to fly their 762ERs transatlantic (AA even subs-in a 762ER on occasion). CO doesn't have any 767-300ERs to fly their translant and transpacific flights, so its divided up between the -200ER and -400ER. LOT and Malev fly their 762ERs transpacific pretty regularly, as does US Airways, Aeromexico, Air Canada, Maxjet, Silverjet, and others.


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User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 5):
The same wing mounted on a heavier airframe tends to give shorter range.

Is it exactly the same wing mounted for both, 767-200 and 767-300?



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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 9):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 5):
The same wing mounted on a heavier airframe tends to give shorter range.

Is it exactly the same wing mounted for both, 767-200 and 767-300?

It may have some heavier gauge structural members in places to handle the increased weight, but the design and mold lines should be identical.

Tom.


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17185 posts, RR: 66
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1647 times:

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 9):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 5):
The same wing mounted on a heavier airframe tends to give shorter range.

Is it exactly the same wing mounted for both, 767-200 and 767-300?

As Tdscanuck says, it is the same airfoil wise, but may be heavier. The 764 has the same wing + the raked wingtips.

The same wing thing within a type is pretty normal. Some exceptions would be the 321 (double slotted flaps instead of single slotted) and the ERJ (winglets on the XR). Still, basically the same wing.

Wings are expensive to design and manufacturers want to get maximum mileage out of them.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 8):
LOT and Malev fly their 762ERs transpacific pretty regularly, as does US Airways, Aeromexico, Air Canada, Maxjet, Silverjet, and others.

I believe AC has only used the 763ER on transpacific routes, not the 762ER.


User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1568 times:

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 8):
LOT and Malev fly their 762ERs transpacific pretty regularly, as does US Airways, Aeromexico, Air Canada, Maxjet, Silverjet, and others

TransPacific or transAtlantic? I didn't think that US Airways has any destinations in Asia (but could easily be mistaken).



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