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Autolands - Why Tell The Tower?  
User currently offlineAM From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 600 posts, RR: 2
Posted (14 years 10 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2253 times:

I was listening to Amsterdam Schiphol's Tower frequency when UA946, a 777 from IAD, checked in. Upon receiving landing clearance, the pilot told the controller "We're using autoland". What is the purpose of this? Why would the tower find that information useful?

By the way, conditions were VMC.

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User currently offlineXXXX10 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (14 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

A guess but it might be that aircraft need a longer final approach a slower speed, or a longer gap behind when using autoland.

Another reason could be to prevent another aircraft holding just short of the runway and blocking the signals from the ILS antena

User currently offlineFBU 4EVER! From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 998 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (14 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

In our company,SAS,the policy is to tell the tower to shut down the ILS to the opposite RWY when we're performing autolands in our MD-80's and -90's.All ILS systems are usually on the air simultaneously to make a RWY change faster if need be.We've had problems with interference from the other ILS.
Maybe this was the intention of the pilot when he made the call?

"Luck and superstition wins all the time"!
User currently offlineN400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2047 times:

From my experiences at SEA, when an aircraft calls they are using a CAT III autoland, the tower controller has to make sure there are no aircraft near the ILS transmitter.

Maybe someone can verify?

User currently offlineFBU 4EVER! From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 998 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (14 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

When Cat II and III operations are being used officially,i.e. due to WX or system tests,several changes will take place;one is the use of special Cat II&III holding positions to keep other traffic out of the ILS system's area,this may also involve closing taxiways close to the RWY,increased separation between traffic on finals,special reporting procedures,etc.
A heavy reduction in traffic capacity is the result,so these procedures are not in force if there's no need for them.A radio call on finals is way too short time to implement these procedures.
So why this radiocall in good visibility and WX conditions? Beats me!

"Luck and superstition wins all the time"!
User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (14 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Its so the controllers can protect the ILS critical area.


User currently offlineTomindc From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 10 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Thanks for the topic and information as I too have heard this upon landing at SEA on a UA 320. But, I'm sure it was on final when the crew notified the tower as I listened most of the way from IAD.

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