Speedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 23709 times:
So, just wondering, as part of the medical to start training to get your private pilots license, do you have to undergo a drug test? If so, (hypothetically), if one were to take only 4 or 5 hits off a joint on thursday night, and the drug test was, say, 9 days later, would it show up?
Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 23730 times:
Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Reply 2): For a 3rd class medical here in the USA, A drug test is not involved. However, urinary samples are taken, tested, and you must by law document your (if any) criminal record.
The urine samples are drug tests though, but it looks like our OP isn't in the USA.
Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 23710 times:
Quoting N710PS (Reply 4): even than not within 12 hours bottle to throttle.
And that depends on how quick you recover from hangovers.
But to the OP: Basically coming onto a world wide site admitting your use of drugs isn't smart. You never know who's reading what, possible employers, etc. regardless of whether or not you plan to become a pilot. I had a non-aviation job 2 years ago where the hiring manager was an A.netter. About a week after I started the job I went into his office one day and he was on mil/space forum typing away. You never know when something like that could come back to haunt you.
57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2586 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 23615 times:
Possibly, depending on what test they do. Drugs pass through different bodily systems at different rates. A UA might come up clean a couple of weeks post usage but some drugs can be detected through other test types months later. Bottom line-if you do drugs and want to get employed in a safety sensitive area, get off the drugs. If you're wanting to get on with an air carrier, railroad or major truck/bus line, they will find out about your drug usage eventually. As one person mentioned, you don't know who monitors these boards. As a railroader, I do know that the Class One railroads monitor the various railroad related sites.
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Rwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2740 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 23374 times:
Quoting Speedbird747BA (Thread starter): If so, (hypothetically), if one were to take only 4 or 5 hits off a joint on thursday night, and the drug test was, say, 9 days later, would it show up?
To answer this specific question, and not comment on the larger issue...
Unfortunately cannabis is one of the things detectable for the longest time after use. After a single use, expect 7-14 days before you're urine is "clean." If you've used on a semi-regular basis, you’ll need 30-60 days between your last use and the test.
If you're abusing heroin, OTOH, your urine will be clean in a couple of days, LSD a day, and Cocaine, no more than four days.
OK, so to comment on the larger issue a *bit,* and strictly considering impairment, I'd rather be flying with a pilot who smoked two or three joints 12 hours before the flight than one who downed a six pack at that time...
N710PS From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 23194 times:
Our company rules are 12 botthe to throttle but when I am off from work it is about 3 bottles and she goes right for the throttle.
In all seriousnes though I find it unwise to admit to the use of narcotic substaqnce and currently you are in persuit of a PPL?? Bad idea man. Pick one or the otrher as I always tell my younger sister.
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PGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 3081 posts, RR: 48
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 23012 times:
Quoting Rwessel (Reply 12): OK, so to comment on the larger issue a *bit,* and strictly considering impairment, I'd rather be flying with a pilot who smoked two or three joints 12 hours before the flight than one who downed a six pack at that time...
How about this: don't pick between the two. Get a third pilot, a professional, to fly the plane.
This is reprehensible behavior, and I hope you either give up drugs or aviation, the sooner the better.
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 66
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 22963 times:
I do hope that if you get your license your personal ethics will demand that you tell ALL possible passengers that you do occasionally smoke dope and give them the option of riding with you or not.
I'm pretty sure that if you ever have an incident, whether you had a part in the cause or not, you will probably be drug tested. Possibly GCMS on a hair sample which will look as far back in your life as the hair is old. Wear long hair? That could be a year or more.
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