Speedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14485 times:
So, just wondering, as part of the medical to start training to get your private pilots license, do you have to undergo a drug test? If so, (hypothetically), if one were to take only 4 or 5 hits off a joint on thursday night, and the drug test was, say, 9 days later, would it show up?
HighFlyer9790 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1236 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14506 times:
For a 3rd class medical here in the USA, A drug test is not involved. However, urinary samples are taken, tested, and you must by law document your (if any) criminal record.
Obviously, that kind of behavior for a pilot is highly immature and not responsible. I wouldn't ask that kind of hypothetical question in this day and age. Be careful.
I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors!
Respectfully,
Highflyer
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Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14501 times:
Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Reply 2): For a 3rd class medical here in the USA, A drug test is not involved. However, urinary samples are taken, tested, and you must by law document your (if any) criminal record.
The urine samples are drug tests though, but it looks like our OP isn't in the USA.
N710PS From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 14498 times:
Not smart. AI do not personally endorse the uise of any mind altering substance except for drinking and even than not within 12 hours bottle to throttle.
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Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14481 times:
Quoting N710PS (Reply 4): even than not within 12 hours bottle to throttle.
And that depends on how quick you recover from hangovers.
But to the OP: Basically coming onto a world wide site admitting your use of drugs isn't smart. You never know who's reading what, possible employers, etc. regardless of whether or not you plan to become a pilot. I had a non-aviation job 2 years ago where the hiring manager was an A.netter. About a week after I started the job I went into his office one day and he was on mil/space forum typing away. You never know when something like that could come back to haunt you.
Futurecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14465 times:
Quoting HighFlyer9790 (Reply 2): Obviously, that kind of behavior for a pilot is highly immature and not responsible. I wouldn't ask that kind of hypothetical question in this day and age. Be careful.
Don't think we can say it better. If you have to ask this question, you arn't ready to be in command of an aircraft.
TZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2836 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 14413 times:
Quoting Speedbird747BA (Thread starter): If so, (hypothetically), if one were to take only 4 or 5 hits off a joint on thursday night, and the drug test was, say, 9 days later, would it show up?
57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14386 times:
Possibly, depending on what test they do. Drugs pass through different bodily systems at different rates. A UA might come up clean a couple of weeks post usage but some drugs can be detected through other test types months later. Bottom line-if you do drugs and want to get employed in a safety sensitive area, get off the drugs. If you're wanting to get on with an air carrier, railroad or major truck/bus line, they will find out about your drug usage eventually. As one person mentioned, you don't know who monitors these boards. As a railroader, I do know that the Class One railroads monitor the various railroad related sites.
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Onetogo From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 286 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14329 times:
Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 3): The urine samples are drug tests though
Rwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1989 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 14145 times:
Quoting Speedbird747BA (Thread starter): If so, (hypothetically), if one were to take only 4 or 5 hits off a joint on thursday night, and the drug test was, say, 9 days later, would it show up?
To answer this specific question, and not comment on the larger issue...
Unfortunately cannabis is one of the things detectable for the longest time after use. After a single use, expect 7-14 days before you're urine is "clean." If you've used on a semi-regular basis, you’ll need 30-60 days between your last use and the test.
If you're abusing heroin, OTOH, your urine will be clean in a couple of days, LSD a day, and Cocaine, no more than four days.
OK, so to comment on the larger issue a *bit,* and strictly considering impairment, I'd rather be flying with a pilot who smoked two or three joints 12 hours before the flight than one who downed a six pack at that time...
N353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 736 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 14054 times:
I have always been under the impression that the urine tests during the flight physical were solely to check for sugar (or maybe starches?) in the urine.
N710PS From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 4 Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14033 times:
Quoting N353SK (Reply 14): I have always been under the impression that the urine tests during the flight physical were solely to check for sugar (or maybe starches?) in the urine.
And excellence as well which I tend to piss quite well it seems. Just kidding do not flame me.
There is plenty of room for Gods animals, right next to the mashed potatoes!
N710PS From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 13965 times:
Our company rules are 12 botthe to throttle but when I am off from work it is about 3 bottles and she goes right for the throttle.
In all seriousnes though I find it unwise to admit to the use of narcotic substaqnce and currently you are in persuit of a PPL?? Bad idea man. Pick one or the otrher as I always tell my younger sister.
There is plenty of room for Gods animals, right next to the mashed potatoes!
PGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2511 posts, RR: 45 Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 13783 times:
Quoting Rwessel (Reply 12): OK, so to comment on the larger issue a *bit,* and strictly considering impairment, I'd rather be flying with a pilot who smoked two or three joints 12 hours before the flight than one who downed a six pack at that time...
How about this: don't pick between the two. Get a third pilot, a professional, to fly the plane.
This is reprehensible behavior, and I hope you either give up drugs or aviation, the sooner the better.
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 71 Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 13734 times:
I do hope that if you get your license your personal ethics will demand that you tell ALL possible passengers that you do occasionally smoke dope and give them the option of riding with you or not.
I'm pretty sure that if you ever have an incident, whether you had a part in the cause or not, you will probably be drug tested. Possibly GCMS on a hair sample which will look as far back in your life as the hair is old. Wear long hair? That could be a year or more.
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Maybe it really was a hypothetical question and he's upset that everyone took it to mean that he's a pot head.
Or maybe he's in a corner somewhere, completely off his cake on goofballs, going "Duuuude. My hands are huge!"
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