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Most Interesting Thing To Get A Airplane Moving  
User currently offlineBoeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1021 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4048 times:

Here's a silly one for you.

What is the most unusual or silly thing you had to do to get a airplane moved or out on a flight?

My example 6 of us had to jump up and down to get the outer wing tank to drain down to the middle wing on a DC-10, because the float switch in the middle tank did not open letting the fuel out of the outer wing tank. The APU had been running all night burning all the fuel out of the mid tank. The look on the supervisors face was classic, he was a new guy and didn't know the DC-10, for that point I didn't either but we bounced the wing and got the fuel to move down to the mid tank.

David


Never under-estimate the predictably of stupidty
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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4039 times:

Jumping up and down at about row 6 in a Beech 1900 to free a stuck flap drive. The motor and drive assembly is located under the floor there.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31573 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4025 times:

Off loading a few Main deck Pallet using a lashing tied to a Tractor as the MDL Power driven units had become u/s.
Ground ops was stuck on Ideas,luckily Mx was not  Smile
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3980 times:

Crouch under a DC-9 to pull the APU inlet door to the "ram" position so the APU start sequence would begin. Alternative: Another long cold day in a place I didn't want to be in the first place.

* * *


Making a running takeoff in a skid-mounted helicopter. We topped off the fuel on a hot day in a place above the HIGE ceiling of the anemic Hiller. Slid along in the gravel for a hundred yards before going through translation and lifting off.

* * *


Run the rotor RPM to the upper redline, snatch the helicopter off the ground and hover over a few feet as the RPM bled off and we eventually settled back onto the ground.
Repeat.
Eventually I was able to hover off a cliff and trade the sudden altitude for some rotor RPM. Flew away in smart fashion.

* * *


Stop, set parking brake.
Shut down left engine.
Offload passengers with right engine running.
Crossbleed start left engine.
Shut down right engine.
Offload bags.
Load outbound bags.
Crossbleed start right engine.
Shut down left engine.
Board passengers.
Crossbleed start left engine.
Taxi away.

* * *


Sober up.
Relax you FAA guys, it wasn't in your jurisdiction. You don't want to know. Besides I made this up.

* * *


Hang on with one hand under the panel to keep my seat from tipping over.

That's enough. I'm starting to scare myself.



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3912 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 3):
Stop, set parking brake.
Shut down left engine.
Offload passengers with right engine running.
Crossbleed start left engine.
Shut down right engine.
Offload bags.
Load outbound bags.
Crossbleed start right engine.
Shut down left engine.
Board passengers.
Crossbleed start left engine.
Taxi away.

Seen similar to De-Ice a Herc with a tits up GTC/APU and no air start in Yellowknife.

Towed a Chinook with a 5 Ton gravel truck.

Jacked A/C while underway onboard ship for retraction test (very stupid on a small ship (<5Ktons)

WrenchBender



Silly Pilot, Tricks are for kids.......
User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3863 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 3):
Stop, set parking brake.
Shut down left engine.
Offload passengers with right engine running.
Crossbleed start left engine.
Shut down right engine.
Offload bags.
Load outbound bags.
Crossbleed start right engine.
Shut down left engine.
Board passengers.
Crossbleed start left engine.
Taxi away.

done that numerous times, just your list seems a little short. assuming you have FOB, then you can do it your way. for us it was like this:

stop, park.
shut down #1, deplane pax, offload and load cargo, board pax.
crossbleed start #1, shutdown #2 and fuel.
pushback with #1 spinning and crossbleed #2.

last time we did that with a CRJ-700. 67 pax, 92 bags, 12000 lb of fuel in 28 minutes.



"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31573 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3790 times:

Using a trestle to access the APU inlet door on the RH side of a B737 to tap it in ,ensuring the microswitch contacts to continue the start sequence.As readjusting the sw rigging would be done at the long halt.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

Things I've seen done to get a 1900 moving:

Rocked back an forth by pushing on the wings to help crack ice that has frozen the brakes when the brake deice is inop.

Watched a 1900 slide around on the ice outside a terminal for the same reason.

Lesson learned: "Don't taxi through snow piles if you can avoid it!"

Checko



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User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3930 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 6):
Using a trestle to access the APU inlet door on the RH side of a B737 to tap it in ,ensuring the microswitch contacts to continue the start sequence.

A yard broom out of the R2 door used to do the trick for me. When we had B732 I kept one in the van.

Not quite in the same vein but, In the early 80s Gulf Air had two US registered Tristars, N92TA and N92TB. These were run under an FAA log book/MEL etc. One of them had a defect with the Slat PDU (sorry can't remember what) and had a 3 day MEL which ran out Thursday. Under CAA rules, which the other L1011 were under this was an unlimited time defect(in those days). We had to approach the FAA in FRA for a disp to continue to fly the aircraft until we got a new slat PDU due Sat. No answer. So on Thursday afternoon Colin and I interchanged the slat PDUs with another L1011 to get both aircraft flying Thursday night (when the whole fleet was in the air).


User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

Moved a P-51 with a John Deere tractor and a chain

Pushed a dead k-loader off a 767 with a tug

Pulled T-34 out of mud (was grass when we parked it!) with 8 guys and a rope.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineBoeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1021 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3611 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 8):
Not quite in the same vein but, In the early 80s Gulf Air had two US registered Tristars, N92TA and N92TB. These were run under an FAA log book/MEL etc. One of them had a defect with the Slat PDU (sorry can't remember what) and had a 3 day MEL which ran out Thursday. Under CAA rules, which the other L1011 were under this was an unlimited time defect(in those days). We had to approach the FAA in FRA for a disp to continue to fly the aircraft until we got a new slat PDU due Sat. No answer. So on Thursday afternoon Colin and I interchanged the slat PDUs with another L1011 to get both aircraft flying Thursday night (when the whole fleet was in the air).

Aero California used to have mobile MEL's like that,I heard guys taking the bad parts off one airplane and putting it on another and clearing the placard on the first airplane and openning it up on the one with the bad part.

David



Never under-estimate the predictably of stupidty
User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 8):
Not quite in the same vein but, In the early 80s Gulf Air had two US registered Tristars, N92TA and N92TB. These were run under an FAA log book/MEL etc. One of them had a defect with the Slat PDU (sorry can't remember what) and had a 3 day MEL which ran out Thursday. Under CAA rules, which the other L1011 were under this was an unlimited time defect(in those days). We had to approach the FAA in FRA for a disp to continue to fly the aircraft until we got a new slat PDU due Sat. No answer. So on Thursday afternoon Colin and I interchanged the slat PDUs with another L1011 to get both aircraft flying Thursday night (when the whole fleet was in the air).

Good story Steve; However, the only part of the L-1011 slat system that has MEL relief is the indicating system. If the PDU was inoperative you can not dispatch a TriStar as it must have the slats operational.


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 9):
Moved a P-51 with a John Deere tractor and a chain

Moved an L-188 with a puny old half-ton Chevy pickup. Moving it was not a problem. Stopping it was.  Wow!



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3139 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3436 times:

10 members of the Calgary Flames pushing the mains and nose because the stairs truck died with the outriggers down and their chartered A320 wasn't going anywhere because nobody had the correct towbar.

[Edited 2007-08-09 04:57:54]


DMI
User currently offlineBoston92 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3387 times:

On a recent flight from SFO to RNO, the Brasilia was heavy, and me and the rest of the back of the plane (heavyweights) had to lean back to help get the aircraft in the air and to our cruising altitude of 430 feet.


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User currently onlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13795 posts, RR: 63
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3323 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 12):
Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 9):
Moved a P-51 with a John Deere tractor and a chain

Moved an L-188 with a puny old half-ton Chevy pickup. Moving it was not a problem. Stopping it was. Wow!

Towing a MD-80 into a hangar using a 1 ton electric forklift because the tug was U/S.

Giving the nav lights on the wing tip of a 727 a "technical tap" (read: whacking them with a plastic traffic cone) to get them working again (the flight engineer's expression was priceless: "So Sir, where was the U/S light?")

Jan

[Edited 2007-08-09 13:03:38]

User currently offlineHangarRat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3267 times:

Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 13):
10 members of the Calgary Flames

How'd they get on board after that? Step ladder?



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User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3139 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

Quoting HangarRat (Reply 16):

How'd they get on board after that? Step ladder?

We had a really flimsy airstairs that we kept around for detailing aircraft.



DMI
User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3930 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3188 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 11):
Good story Steve; However, the only part of the L-1011 slat system that has MEL relief is the indicating system. If the PDU was inoperative you can not dispatch a TriStar as it must have the slats operational.

Yes I wish I could remember. But it is a true story. I wish I knew why we did it!


User currently offlineAogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 935 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3173 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 15):
Giving the nav lights on the wing tip of a 727 a "technical tap"

Wow Jan, I forgot all about the tap on the 727 nav's. Always used to make a quick trip out to the airplane before the flight crew went out to preflight. I don't know about your method, but I ALWAYS used a calibrated tap.  Wink


User currently offlineMrFord From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 141 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

Quoting TheGreatChecko (Reply 7):
Things I've seen done to get a 1900 moving:

Rocked back an forth by pushing on the wings to help crack ice that has frozen the brakes when the brake deice is inop.

Watched a 1900 slide around on the ice outside a terminal for the same reason.

Lesson learned: "Don't taxi through snow piles if you can avoid it!"

Checko

Let me guess : This is the same multi-discs setup as the High Flotation Gears on the BE10?
At my old company, we had 2 BE10 out of 4 with that setup... and no brakes deice, they didn't think that this would be a useful option... well except when you operate north of the 49th parallel most of the time!
Correction: There was brake de-icers... one had 3 stripes, the other had 4, with a shared bottle of glycol IIRC  Wink

Oh I still remember a particular snowback in front of the hangar on a particulary cold January snow storm... but then my job was to stay warm inside  Cool



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User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1616 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3077 times:
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Quoting Boeing767mech (Thread starter):
My example 6 of us had to jump up and down to get the outer wing tank to drain down to the middle wing on a DC-10,

Did a similar thing on an Air Force Boeing C-97 during an engine change. The engine was mounted on a Quick Engine Change frame called a QEC. Everything came off the airplane as one unit and nothing stayed on the airframe.

During an engine change the QEC which was attached to the airframe with 4 bolts, we were only able to get 3 bolts in, the fourth was just a little off, instead of forcing or hammering the bolt in, I went out to the wingtip and started to jump up and down, the wing flexed enough so they were able to get the last QEC bolt in.


User currently offlineMark5388916 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

I've used that same method of attaching some things at school... how interesting that it works for airplanes too.... Not a big surprise mind you  Smile

Mark



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31573 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3009 times:

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 15):
Giving the nav lights on the wing tip of a 727 a "technical tap

Yeah thats a common on the B737s too with both Nav lights & wheel well lights.  Smile
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineBoeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1021 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

Quoting Jetstar (Reply 21):
During an engine change the QEC which was attached to the airframe with 4 bolts, we were only able to get 3 bolts in, the fourth was just a little off, instead of forcing or hammering the bolt in, I went out to the wingtip and started to jump up and down, the wing flexed enough so they were able to get the last QEC bolt in.

We usually have to use a little 5 pound force to get the bolts in during the reversor changes we do on the 757's. I about fell over dead the other day when we had the Crane set right and the T/R alined perfect, all we did was grease up the bolt and the thread protectors and it slid in with finger pressure. I have never had one do that before.

David



Never under-estimate the predictably of stupidty
25 MD11Engineer : On the 737 classic there is a bracket beneath the main gear actuator in the main wheel wells. To remove the actuator (during main gear replacements) y
26 Boeing767mech : We did a fitting on a 732 for Aloha when I was working at a repair station, we tried a 12X rivet gun and still could not get it to move. Turned out i
27 HAWK21M : What did you use. regds MEL
28 Buzz : Hi SlamCLick, Buzz here. I'd forgotten about jumping up and down in the aft cabin to get our DC-8 upper anticollison beacon to rotate. And there was o
29 MD11Engineer : I knew a South African engineer, who had to fix something on top of #1 engine pylon of a 727, but no ladder or staging. He used the L1 door hinges an
30 N710PS : Been there done that! Not with you though obviously. When we work together it is for some reason flawless except for you bitching at me about a misse
31 Cancidas : more like the many missed entries. SLACKER!
32 Post contains images FLY2HMO : That gotta hurt
33 CanadianNorth : At Air North our front end loader, large forklift and aircraft tug are all the same vehicle. Basically it's an old front end loader with a forklift th
34 HAWK21M : How about control panel.Is it the same for each function or at different locatons on the vehicle. regds MEL
35 Post contains images Gr8Circle : Wow! If I was a pax in a plane and looked out of the window and saw six guys jumping up and down on the wing, I would be seriously worried....
36 CanadianNorth : I've never actually been in it. But apparently it's much the same as a normal loader, only with a hook for the towbar. I don't know if there are any
37 HAWK21M : Try clicking a pic next time.As such multiple units normally have more than one control panel. regds MEL
38 Tdscanuck : I was on a 737 with some very minor damage to the nacelle that was found during walkaround. A mechanic applied a temporary speed tape repair, no bid
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