Aeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 2957 posts, RR: 30 Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 26149 times:
This might seem like a dumb question, so my apologies if it is. How exactly does the aircraft get to the runway in this airport. Surely that little strip of concrete on the outside cannot be a taxi-way. Does the aircraft need to taxi on the runway and simply turn around???
San747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4934 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 26151 times:
Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter): Does the aircraft need to taxi on the runway and simply turn around???
OceansWorld From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 26088 times:
Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter): Does the aircraft need to taxi on the runway and simply turn around???
Yes, and as you can see on the picture there are three places where the runway is larger to allow the aircraft to turn around for take off or to backtrack toward the apron.
Jasp25 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 613 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 25982 times:
Many airports in the Philippines, i.e. ILO, CEB, DVO, BCD, ZAM has the same lay-out. Before taking off, airplanes taxi to the very end of the runway, make a 180-degree turn, and power-up for take off. Airports like that are pretty common.
B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2767 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 25900 times:
The common term for it is "back-taxi", and it also takes place at cities that do have taxiways but the aircraft are too large wingspan wise or engine configuration. For example, at FRG it is very common to have the 727's and 737's (charters) land and backtaxi to their FBO using runways instead of taxiways. It helps to not blow the C152's off the taxiway LOL!
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21488 posts, RR: 24 Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 25776 times:
Quoting JoeCattoli (Reply 6): What's strange to me is that this Airport doesn't figure on the GreatCircleMapper..
Not sure why JZH isn't recognized. It is listed in various other airport code sites etc, although I cannot find the ICAO code, only the JZH IATA code. I believe it opened in 2003. It is very high, about 3500m (11200 ft) above sea level.
Mattnrsa From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 384 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 25726 times:
BlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3125 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 25613 times:
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21488 posts, RR: 24 Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 25528 times:
Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 12): Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10):
although I cannot find the ICAO code
ZUJZ (listed in several places, including the OP's picture)
Thanks. I forgot the ICAO code was in the photo heading.
B752fanatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 918 posts, RR: 9 Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 25314 times:
Quoting EK413 (Reply 14): 'Back Tracking' is the common term
EK413
Exact term, I believe they tend to not have taxiways in airport where traffic is minimal therefore the expense of creating a taxiway is unnecesary.
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Quote: I could be wrong, but I think Tenerife had taxiways, but they were being used to park all the planes that diverted there.
I believe that is correct on that occasion. They taxied via the runway until there was an open turnoff and took the taxiway if my memory serves me correctly. I'm not sure about normal ops. VTBDflyer
Buck3y3nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 864 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 23854 times:
Some airports in India are also like this. BLR & GOI come to mind. This happened to me when I was sitting inside the plane
Feroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3 Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 22994 times:
Quoting Buck3y3nut (Reply 19): Some airports in India are also like this. BLR & GOI come to mind. This happened to me when I was sitting inside the plane
Flytweed From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 84 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 21636 times:
HVN is also this way - Departures from Rwy 02 require US's daily Dash-8 flights to back taxi down 02 and turn around before takeoffs when 02 is in use.
B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2767 posts, RR: 7 Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 20151 times:
Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 16): In the US, its called "back-taxi", "back-track" seems to be prevalent in other countries.
I was wondering if I was wrong here, thank you for backing me up on this. I know I have had to do a go-around due to an aircraft doing a back-taxi more than once LOL! Interesting how the terms do differ based on the country though...I would think it would have a standard/uniform term.
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Mk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1186 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 17568 times:
Quoting Buck3y3nut (Reply 19): Some airports in India are also like this. BLR & GOI come to mind. This happened to me when I was sitting inside the plane
Quoting Feroze (Reply 21): Add to that PNQ and CCU (19L)
In January, my AF flight to DEL was diverted to HYD Begumpet and when we were cleared to go back to DEL, we backtracked on the HYD rwy 9-27 for take off from rwy 27, so add HYD to that list as well
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25 LTU932: At SJO, if you want to depart from RW25, you exit through either Alpha or Alpha 1, backtrack RW25 and then turn around at the turning back right at th
26 KAUSpilot: Most airports in Mexico, and I would venture to guess the rest of central america share a similair layout.
27 CityAirline: Not CEB. What is that "extra strip" out in the water running paralell with the runway? =) //Alex
28 ArcrftLvr: Without reading anything above, the plane would turn onto the active runway and then at the end, turn around for departure. This is called 'back-taxii
29 BoeingBoy: Maybe you should read some of the above - if he turns onto the ACTIVE why would he not just depart.
30 StealthZ: If you look at the photo in the thread starter... turning onto the middle of the ACTIVE may not allow enough distance for take off! Looks to me like
31 BAe146QT: That's more or less correct, but they had actually been told what taxiway to take, then took the wrong one. There's a number of reasons for this, inc
32 XJRamper: Just need to let you know that there actually is a taxiway to the right of the runway, so you didn't need to mention Genoa He was referring to the ta
33 StealthZ: I may be verging on pedantic(it is early Sunday and I haven't had enough coffee yet) but no he wasn't!! He clearly asked about the strip out in the w
34 Ceph: Tenerife has taxiways abut at the time of the incident, they were all blocked by diverted planes. The Pan- Am missed the taxiway they were supposed to
35 HAWK21M: At times its faster to reach an assigned bay by backtracking.Also depends on the other Aircraft around too. regds MEL
36 Aauzou: Its called backtracking. You dont have to taxi down the runway at Tenerife, they have a parallel taxiway, just on that day there was more traffic, and
37 BuyantUkhaa: It's still in use (although the majority of international traffic moved to the South airport after it opened) and yes, it sees aircraft that size, on
38 Salukipilot: ...or Back-taxiing here in the US...
39 LTU932: Backtracking is perfectly safe, so there's nothing to worry about. Like it was said, TFN's runways don't require backtracking but if there are specia
40 HAWK21M: Is it an official term in the US. regds MEL
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