Boeingfan4life From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4662 times:
how do airliner pilots request pushback? do they contact Ramp Control like in ATL or do they contact ground control? also, after pushback do they contact ground and say ex. "US Air 6969 at the terminal with information ******* ready for taxi?"
XFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4300 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4500 times:
At atlanta they do contact ramp control.. that is a pretty unique situation though... usually it is the ground control responsible for your portion of the airport- generally being north or south ground control, or at tiny tallahassee airport just ground.
DouglasDC8 From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4488 times:
At Newark Int'l I used to work in UA operations. The airline company controlled pushbacks and the crews advised ground control when they were ready to taxi. UA ops also controlled pushbacks from gates 20-22 on the other side of the "alley". Those gates belonged first to USairways, then CO and Air Canada. It is strange but sometimes one airline will be responsible for pushbacks for another airline. In Laguardia, AA used to, and may still, control the pushbacks of UA.
G-ELDG From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2001, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4474 times:
THEY USUALLY CONTACT THE TOWER WHEN THERE READY FOR DEPARTURE. THE CONTROLLER WILL RADIO BACK WITH PUSHBACK CLEARANCE AND THE PUSHBACK GUYS LISTEN INTO THE SAME FREQUENCY ON THERE HEAD SEATS SO THERE READY TO PUSH !!
Iainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4471 times:
It all depends like UA at LAX have ramp tower as they are pushing back into their own concourse, however if they push back to the taxiway they have to contact ground. I guess they can control what happends behind the yellow line but if they cross it they need to talk to ground.
G-ELDG Tower is usually refered to the chap controlling the runways, I think you are refering to ground. About being ready for departure that is your call when you are holding short the runway, and ready to go screaming down it.
TERRA From Iraq, joined Aug 1999, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (14 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4360 times:
At the smaller airports the a/c will initially contact the tower for clearance as they do not always have a ground frequency. Larger ports will need a ground controller due to the number of movements
Initial contact will normally be as follows- 'BCS**** on stand 101 request pushback and start clearance'
When given clearance the flt crew will contact the headset operative saying that they have clearance to push and brakes are set/released.
Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6170 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (14 years 9 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4294 times:
Requesting pushback most likely depends on the situation that the aircraft(s) are in.
For a simple airport - say, a class C, or D airport like BNA or PHF respectively, you would just have to call ground on the appropriate frequency and request for a pushback, since the taxiways are past the active movement area boundary.
For a more complex airport, mostly class B, there would be seperate ground and ramp control frequncies.
at ATL, for example, each concourse has a "tower" that gives them their clearances, and synchronizes the pushbacks with the neighboring concourse, so as to avoid a conflict (which is a not a good thing at a class B, since it is best to keep moving). in PHX, HP has a ramp tower all their own to synchronize their arrivals, departures and the such. This very same control does the clearances, allows for pushback, and assigns the gates (as well as other things inside the company itself). I am unsure of the other terminals and/or concourses, since i have never been to those before .
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SUDDEN From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4169 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (14 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4292 times:
At GOT (gothenburgh) when I worked there the pilots called the apron tower for clearence, and then called the ground, and then we had to call the apron tower for P-back clearence as well. Heard that this were the only place this is rutine. Sometimes the pilot just asked us if we could take care of the pushback clearence and that was no problem.
Srbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (14 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4292 times:
At ATL, each concourse has a ramp control tower, run by a third party (AGI), and some of them have members of the airlines on that concourse ops dept. (if the airline has an ops dept at ATL). The flight crew will radio the ramp control tower for the concourse, and will get clearance from they, and once they are on the taxiway, they are switched over to ATC.