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User currently offlineBoeingfan4life From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3331 times:

how do airliner pilots request pushback? do they contact Ramp Control like in ATL or do they contact ground control? also, after pushback do they contact ground and say ex. "US Air 6969 at the terminal with information ******* ready for taxi?"

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User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Here at Heathrow, they contact the ground controller that is responsible for their section of the airfield.

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Ikarus


User currently offlineAmericawest123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3199 times:

Here in Phoenix they contact ground on either North or South ground control depending on their location as well,

Example: "Ground, Cactus 7453 at gate A24, request pushback clearance"


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4229 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3169 times:

At atlanta they do contact ramp control.. that is a pretty unique situation though... usually it is the ground control responsible for your portion of the airport- generally being north or south ground control, or at tiny tallahassee airport just ground.


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User currently offlineDouglasDC8 From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3157 times:

At Newark Int'l I used to work in UA operations. The airline company controlled pushbacks and the crews advised ground control when they were ready to taxi. UA ops also controlled pushbacks from gates 20-22 on the other side of the "alley". Those gates belonged first to USairways, then CO and Air Canada. It is strange but sometimes one airline will be responsible for pushbacks for another airline. In Laguardia, AA used to, and may still, control the pushbacks of UA.

User currently offlineG-ELDG From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2001, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3143 times:

THEY USUALLY CONTACT THE TOWER WHEN THERE READY FOR DEPARTURE. THE CONTROLLER WILL RADIO BACK WITH PUSHBACK CLEARANCE AND THE PUSHBACK GUYS LISTEN INTO THE SAME FREQUENCY ON THERE HEAD SEATS SO THERE READY TO PUSH !!

User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3140 times:

It all depends like UA at LAX have ramp tower as they are pushing back into their own concourse, however if they push back to the taxiway they have to contact ground. I guess they can control what happends behind the yellow line but if they cross it they need to talk to ground.
G-ELDG Tower is usually refered to the chap controlling the runways, I think you are refering to ground. About being ready for departure that is your call when you are holding short the runway, and ready to go screaming down it.
Iain


User currently offlineRatzz From Sweden, joined Sep 1999, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

Here at ARN the pilots radio either "ground north or ground south"pending on gate,for p/u clearance.

Ground control´s also called for taxi...when an aircraft reaches a certain point on the taxiway,the pilots are told to switch to tower freq.for lineup/takeoff clearance.


User currently offlineAtlasAir From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3065 times:

Here at North Perry(HWO) we contact CTAF when tower is out.
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User currently offlinePT-BRA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3057 times:

I agree with Atlas Air, because at Everglades City (x01) we just push it back by hand and contact CTAF using our hand held, and hope that the batteries are still working.

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User currently offlineTERRA From Iraq, joined Aug 1999, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3029 times:

At the smaller airports the a/c will initially contact the tower for clearance as they do not always have a ground frequency. Larger ports will need a ground controller due to the number of movements
Initial contact will normally be as follows- 'BCS**** on stand 101 request pushback and start clearance'
When given clearance the flt crew will contact the headset operative saying that they have clearance to push and brakes are set/released.

Terra


User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3020 times:

"Ground, Cathay two five zero, Mike twenty six, are we cleared for push? Cathay two five zero push back is approved. Clear to Push Cathay two five zero."

User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2819 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3005 times:

At my home airports (SFO, OAK, SNA, LAX) you'll hear something like:

"Delta 219 heavy, request pushback, charlie forty-one."

The controller will most likely approve the request and then:

"Delta 219 heavy, taxi, please."


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6118 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2963 times:

Requesting pushback most likely depends on the situation that the aircraft(s) are in.

For a simple airport - say, a class C, or D airport like BNA or PHF respectively, you would just have to call ground on the appropriate frequency and request for a pushback, since the taxiways are past the active movement area boundary.

For a more complex airport, mostly class B, there would be seperate ground and ramp control frequncies.

at ATL, for example, each concourse has a "tower" that gives them their clearances, and synchronizes the pushbacks with the neighboring concourse, so as to avoid a conflict (which is a not a good thing at a class B, since it is best to keep moving). in PHX, HP has a ramp tower all their own to synchronize their arrivals, departures and the such. This very same control does the clearances, allows for pushback, and assigns the gates (as well as other things inside the company itself). I am unsure of the other terminals and/or concourses, since i have never been to those before  Smile.




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User currently offlineSUDDEN From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

At GOT (gothenburgh) when I worked there the pilots called the apron tower for clearence, and then called the ground, and then we had to call the apron tower for P-back clearence as well. Heard that this were the only place this is rutine. Sometimes the pilot just asked us if we could take care of the pushback clearence and that was no problem.


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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

At ATL, each concourse has a ramp control tower, run by a third party (AGI), and some of them have members of the airlines on that concourse ops dept. (if the airline has an ops dept at ATL). The flight crew will radio the ramp control tower for the concourse, and will get clearance from they, and once they are on the taxiway, they are switched over to ATC.

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