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Landing 13L@KJFK  
User currently offlineWawas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1244 times:


i heard that landing on runway 13L at KJFK is as hard as landing at Kaï Tak. Is that true? I Landed a couple of times at KJFK on B747-400 but i don't think it was the 13L in use.
If it's hard, why do they change their STARs?

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User currently offlineOldman From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (14 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

In reality there is not much difference in 13L or 13R. Think of it this way, its all just concrete. Some take a little more planning than others but the bottom line is it's still 2 miles or more of cement. How you get there is one thing but landings are still landings. Regards Oldman

User currently offlineWawas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 10 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1193 times:


i was talking about the approach...

User currently offlineMonocleman From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 10 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1187 times:

Not being a pilot, obviously, I cannot say if the approach is difficult or not. But the approach is similar in that it is not straight in - There is a large turn before aligning with the runway and flaring for touchdown. It's interesting to watch, actually, and see the aircraft bank and yaw so close to the ground. It definately does not look as difficult as Kai Tak though, because the turn isn't as sharp and there is a longer runway.


User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 10 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1177 times:

From what I've observed in my limited time spent at JFK, the turn is usually completed some distance away from the runway threshold, leaving a comfortably long straight-in section till the touchdown. Whereas in Kai Tak, many planes have yet to level out when they were already over the runway, and "one-legged" touchdowns were not uncommon. And then, there are those 2000-ft mountains surrounding Kai Tak, waiting for someone to hit if they screw it up big time.


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4300 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (14 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1154 times:

My dad has flown the approach many times when he flew the 747... I'll be sure to ask him when i get a chance.

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