Flexo From St. Helena, joined Mar 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7278 times:
Ok we all know what are the biggest aircraft ever built as they get plenty of attention in the forums here. But what about the small ones?
What is actually the smallest "flying machine" that was ever able to take a full grown human into the skies (If measured by MTOW or wing span I don't care)?
To make it a little more difficult it should be able to:
- Land and take off without help and on even terrain
- Stay in the air for at least an hour
Flyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7235 times:
Although this may not be what you are looking for, I would venture to say that this is the lightest weight flying device that can carry aloft a human and meet your requirements. They are usually in the 40-80lb range...
Powered Paragliders (my next hobby, I think)
There are also strap on motors for hang-gliders allowing for takeoff from a level field with no wind. A skilled hang glider pilot, when assisted by one, and remain aloft for hours and travel great distances...
Avioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7219 times:
BD-5: The single-seat fuselage was miniscule, barely 4 m (13 ft) long. The wing was mounted low and spanned just over 6.4 m (21 ft) and the airplane took-off and landed on tiny, retractable, tricycle landing gear. The factory offered a set of shorter wings (4.3 m/14 ft 4 in span) but almost no one flew with them.
Cri-Cri: The tiny Cri-Cri has a wingspan of 16.1 ft (4.9 m) and is a mere 12.83 ft (3.9 m) in length.
Very close to a draw although the BD had a much larger fuselage volume.
Now if I can only find my 1969 Oshkosh pics. . .
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ATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2583 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 7173 times:
I believe according to Guiness it is the Bumblee pictured above. The span is tiny though it might weight more than a Cri Cri.
Looking at the Cri-Cri though I have seen alot of ultralights (microlight in some ares of the world) that are similiar in size and weight. The "Air-Bike" comes to mind. Now if you mean certified aircraft in the FAA sense of the word, then the Bumblebee is your plane.
BoeingOnFinal From Norway, joined Apr 2006, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7015 times:
Those machines are freakishly small. I mean, any aircraft that would shift the C of G out of the forward limit when looking forward to see the instruments is to small for me.
Quoting Flexo (Reply 7): It seems like the Bumblebee needs a lot of speed with that small wingspan or am I off here?
Well, being a biplane and probably very light, I would assume it is not that bad at all. And without assuming to much, that little thing looks extremely unstable on ground being very tall compared to a small wheelbase and having a C of G quite high. Would be interesting to know the stallspeed though.
Lehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6820 times:
Viruses can't fl -- wait you mean like airborne bacteria? C'mon, they aren't flying (just falling with style ) -- and it just isn't voluntary. With a strong enough wind, we could all fly whether we want to or not, but that doesn't mean we're in control of the flight path.
I'd do an emergency fuel dump being airborne for an hour like that.
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Starlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17626 posts, RR: 65
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6795 times:
Quoting Lehpron (Reply 14): Viruses can't fl -- wait you mean like airborne bacteria? C'mon, they aren't flying (just falling with style Wink ) -- and it just isn't voluntary. With a strong enough wind, we could all fly whether we want to or not, but that doesn't mean we're in control of the flight path.
Fair point. So we're talking lightest controlled flight then. I guess it would be some sort of insect.
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
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