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What's Up With The "SSSS" Code On AA Bpasses?  
User currently offlineJMBWEEBOY From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 266 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 12496 times:

I have a close friend who recently traveled two legs on American, SDF to ORD and then LGA to SDF. Both times a "SSSS code was denoted at the bottom of his boarding passes by AA.

On both trips when he got to TSA, they gave him quite the going over. He was told by TSA that AA identifies "problem" passengers with this code.. In both cases, there was surely no unpleasant experience at the counter. The man travels with his wife, is always well dressed, and in fact is the president of a major university in the Southeastern USA.

My first thought maybe he was being singled out as if he just bought one way tickets. But surely the AA people could have seen he had an onward leg from MDW to LGA with ATA and then with them American again from LGA to SDF in Sabre. Oddly enough ATA gave him no such hassle or code for TSA.

Cany anyone shed any light on what AA's motivations might be here ? My friend is royally ticked at them and I doubt he can get a straight story from enquiring at AA.

Thanks!

JMBWEEBOY

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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 12492 times:

It's not AAs doing.

Your 'friend's' beefis with the TSA.

Tell him to take it up with them.

Many factors weigh in to the SSSS thing on the Boarding Pass.

When did he buy the ticket? How did he pay for the ticket? One way or Round Trip? How far in advance of the flight?


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31436 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 12489 times:
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AA does not make the decision. The TSA does. They flag the passenger in the system so the "SSSS" code prints on the BP.

As to what criteria determine an "SSSS" tag, I do not know. I often fly one-way First Class (though I don't use cash) and I have yet to be flagged.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 12476 times:

The SSSS means that you will get a secondary search at security. Generally, if you do things like buy one way tickets, make walk up reservations, or pay with a large sum of cash, the computer system will flag that reservation for secondary screening. Of course they don't give the exact specifics to the airlines, since it is not the airlines decision, but after working in the industry for a while, you sort of pick up on it.

[Edited 2008-01-03 11:23:04]

User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 12440 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
It's not AAs doing.

Your 'friend's' beefis with the TSA.

Well, it is AA's 'doing', because it's coming from AA's check-in system, Sabre, based upon TSA requirements. However, the argument is still with the TSA, as they're the people ultimately generating the 'SSSS' comment.

The ATA sector was not necessarily visible in the AA PNR, so AA would consider the booking as two one-way sectors, thus invoking the 'SSSS' comment and consequent search by TSA agents.

[Edited 2008-01-03 11:26:13]

User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12399 times:



Quoting LHR777 (Reply 4):
Well, it is AA's 'doing', because it's coming from AA's check-in system, Sabre, based upon TSA requirements

Not really. AA itself doesn't put the stipulations into the system, and they have no control on when or if the SSSS will appear.


User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12386 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 5):
Not really. AA itself doesn't put the stipulations into the system, and they have no control on when or if the SSSS will appear.

Please see my amended comment above, posted before you posted.


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12349 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 5):
Not really. AA itself doesn't put the stipulations into the system, and they have no control on when or if the SSSS will appear.

Not that I think it was the case here, but I was once told that that the agents can override the "SSSS" (either force it on or force it off) -- that may have been utter BS, but it makes sense to me that the agent would at the very least be able to flag someone when something "JDLR"

The one and only time I got SSSSed was when CO rebooked me on NW for a flight leaving in less than 20 minutes. It didn't matter though, since I was allready in the sterile area.

(Actually there was one time in GRR where something was up with boarding pass printer's print head and the bottom 1/4 or so of the boarding pass didn't have any printing on it (the rest was really faint) -- I have no reason to beleive that I would have been SSSSed, but the TSA ID checker spent a good 45 seconds to a minute trying to figure out what to do before initialing my BP and waiving me through...

Lincoln



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12315 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 7):
but I was once told that that the agents can override the "SSSS" (either force it on or force it off) -- that may have been utter BS, but it makes sense to me that the agent would at the very least be able to flag someone when something "JDLR"

At one airline I used to work for the agents could put an SSSS stamp on the boarding pass, but only for situations where the passenger had an invalid I.D, for example. Agents are not supposed to profile people and they couldn't put that stamp on there just because of the way someone looked or acted...but that being said, I have seen it done at every carrier I've worked with.


User currently offlinePITops From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1442 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12276 times:

SSSS appears on WN boarding passes if the person pays with cash or its a one way ticket paid with cash. We can make them selectees by hand as well by marking no ID on our SASS screen.


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User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 954 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12177 times:

That's happened a few times with me commuting to work from DEN to STL on Amercian Connection (Trans States, my own airline). The AA guys usually fixed that for me. But when I was still based in RIC I would be practice for some of the new TSA folks to do the more thorough checks on. Not a big deal, as I always got to work early. Also, I allowed it, and wanted other pax to see us flight crew are human too, and have to put up with the same crap. But even as a revenue pax, and you have to endure the indignaty of being singled out by SSSS on the boarding card, all I can say is, show up early, and don't be rushed. It sucks having to go through it, but TSA has to do their job too, and 9.99 times out of ten, the SSSS are not personal, they just come up. Sorry, you "won the lottery" on that one, but it happens and it doesn't matter who you are or who you know, everyone is subject to getting an extra search.

Could be worse, ever see the movie "Midnight Express"? I just wonder if Billy Hayes get's SSSS everytime he flies now? For those who don't know, he is a real guy and the movie was loosely based on his story.



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4725 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 12146 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 7):
Not that I think it was the case here, but I was once told that that the agents can override the "SSSS"

I heard the same in LAS, after having the full treatment in IAH (twice), PHX and LAS. The joys of non-rev



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User currently offlineMagyar From Hungary, joined Feb 2000, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 12038 times:

Let see, what will be the last thing those who really want to do some damage do?
I guess buying a one way ticket by cash! Why? Because just about everybody knows that
it will redflag you! What is the point of this BS?!? Either don't reveal the triggers for redflagging
or leave us alone with this token security!


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 954 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11972 times:

Paying in cash is so fun. Wish I could I could pay for everything in cold hard cash, to heck with credit. But, yeah, the problem with cash is too suspicious. I hate using credit, but now it's pretty much that, or you are right, you get more scrutinized by the authorities that be. Then again if I had that kind of cash flow, I'd probably be flying in private. Then again, if that's not an option, let TSA search me like a "commoner", at least I'll make it through security and my ticket's paid for. I may not like it, but what choice do I have?


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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11974 times:



Quoting JMBWEEBOY (Thread starter):
The man travels with his wife, is always well dressed, and in fact is the president of a major university in the Southeastern USA.

Irrelevant, right?

Quoting JMBWEEBOY (Thread starter):
My friend is royally ticked at them



Quoting JMBWEEBOY (Thread starter):
they gave him quite the going over

What exactly did they do? AFAIK they inspect the hand baggage, and give a wanding ... happened to me on a few occasions and took barely longer than a normal check. In fact in a lot of airports, you get moved into the priority line, and can end up being checked long before those non "problem people".


Jimbo



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 11802 times:



Quoting PITops (Reply 9):
SSSS appears on WN boarding passes if the person pays with cash or its a one way ticket paid with cash. We can make them selectees by hand as well by marking no ID on our SASS screen.

It also happens on WN if you do same day, one way paid by credit card over the 1-800-IFLYSWA number (ask me how I know...)  Sad . Of course, I did that when a legacy shafted my wife and I and left us high and dry ("We can have you out of here in 4-5 days.."  Angry ).



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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 11801 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 2):
assenger in the system so the



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 7):
with boarding pass printer's print head

Off-topic: what on earth happened here? Double underlined words with ads???????? Uh oh!!!!! Wow!

Edit: after refreshing this phenomenon disappeared... I either have a serious virus or we're in for new types of advertising. In the above examples the word "system" was double underlined and when pointing at it, it showed an advertisement, the same in the second line with "printer's print".

Seriously confused now...

[Edited 2008-01-03 13:48:28]


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User currently offlineChrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2185 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 11786 times:



Quoting KELPkid (Reply 15):
It also happens on WN if you do same day, one way paid by credit card over the 1-800-IFLYSWA number

Try sticking a RR number in the reservation. It's happened to me when I've been rerouted and the agents don't add my RR number. The supervisor in SAN said airport issued tickets without a RR number flag all the time.


User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2915 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 11781 times:



Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 16):
Double underlined words with ads???????? Uh oh!!!!!

Found it already...
Whats With New Keywords Popping Up In Threads (by Alitalia744 Aug 6 2007 in Site Related)



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17186 posts, RR: 66
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 11740 times:



Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 18):

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 16):
Double underlined words with ads???????? Uh oh!!!!!

Found it already...
Whats With New Keywords Popping Up In Threads (by Alitalia744 Aug 6 2007 in Site Related)

NEver seen those on A.nut. Long live Firefox + Adblock Plus.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 11719 times:



Quoting LHR777 (Reply 4):
Well, it is AA's 'doing', because it's coming from AA's check-in system, Sabre, based upon TSA requirements. However, the argument is still with the TSA, as they're the people ultimately generating the 'SSSS' comment.

I don't know what you are smoking, but you are clearly incorrect. It's 100% the TSA's doing. AA isn't the only one that has the infamous SSSS on the boarding passes. Every airline has the dreaded SSSS on boarding passes.



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User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3646 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 11717 times:

I flew with buddy passes this summer on CO and they did the same for me. It was a huge hassle to be searched head to toe every time I went through security but the tickets were free so I didn't care.

User currently offlineAnalog From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 11696 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 5):
Not really. AA itself doesn't put the stipulations into the system, and they have no control on when or if the SSSS will appear.



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 20):
I don't know what you are smoking, but you are clearly incorrect. It's 100% the TSA's doing.

While the TSA is the one responsible for this stupidity, as long as airline agents can force an SSSS code it's not 100% TSA's doing. As long as people with refundable tickets can successfully get SSSS removed by threatening to get a refund and go to another carrier it's not 100% the TSA's doing.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 11682 times:



Quoting Analog (Reply 22):
While the TSA is the one responsible for this stupidity, as long as airline agents can force an SSSS code it's not 100% TSA's doing.

Forcing it manually can be done via a stamp. Forcing it via a computer print, I don't think can be done. There is absolutely no knowing who will be SSSS'ed and who will not. Removing a SSSS is a whole 'nother ball game, I don't think that can be done. No one here has testified that removing the SSSS has been done.

Quoting Analog (Reply 22):
As long as people with refundable tickets can successfully get SSSS removed by threatening to get a refund and go to another carrier it's not 100% the TSA's doing.

You are kidding, arn't you???



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 11669 times:



Quoting Chrisair (Reply 17):
Try sticking a RR number in the reservation. It's happened to me when I've been rerouted and the agents don't add my RR number. The supervisor in SAN said airport issued tickets without a RR number flag all the time.

But are you privy to that number if you do the re-routing yourself (as you have to on WN, unless you were a TZ passenger...)? I never even knew about this number before...



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25 Analog : No. Though I have no firsthand knowledge; I've just heard of it being done. Perhaps it can be removed by creating a whole new reservation? Does anyon
26 Starlionblue : What kind of blowhard would ask for that? Sheesh. Just shut up and soldier. It's just a few extra minutes.
27 XT6Wagon : with the creepy old dude playing with your jewels
28 BuyantUkhaa : Didn't know about AdBlock, thanks. Seems to work.
29 Post contains images Andz : Guys please!! Don't tip the terrorists off on how to avoid being subject to more security!!
30 Post contains images Starlionblue : We aim to please. Oh come on! The "competent" terrorists are well aware of all this stuff.
31 Post contains images Analog : I might. It's a way of protesting against the asinine "security" rules. I am not a soldier; it's not my job to follow [stupid] rules blindly and with
32 AirframeAS : That wouldn't really work. A whole new reservation would mean a brand new airfare, plus a possible change fee. I think that is illegal. Easy way to l
33 Analog : If you're on a fully refundable ticket, the new fare will likely be the same as the old one, plus there will probably be no change fee. Even if it's
34 Andz : sarcasm goes right over your head I see.
35 Post contains images Starlionblue : Yeah but aren't you just victimizing the poor check-in agent who didn't create the rule? If life were fair, the bureaucrat who created the rule shoul
36 Analog : By that logic protesting almost any rule enforcement is unfair to someone, as very few rules are enforced by the people that write them. I hope that
37 Starlionblue : I'll dream right along with you. It's so nice to be out of the US for a few years. Aviation security is so much more civilized. No that's not true. I
38 FlyASAGuy2005 : Actually, this is quite a time consuming task. I don't see any agent doing this. Sorry, but if you get flagged you get flagged. I will most certainly
39 Analog : I thought that employees flying for personal travel had to go through security like everyone else.
40 AirframeAS : I diagree with you. The walk-up (same day flying) fares would be much, much more expensive than you think.... Is it cost benefitual, I think not. Bes
41 Domokun : SSSS.... Seems like a useless designation when the people performing security screening are by and large useless. They could stamp it on your forehead
42 Post contains links and images Starlionblue : Don't get me started. I'll just post this link as usual: http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2459.
43 Analog : I have purchased full Y fares and am fully aware of the cost. For my current airline of choice (CO), domestic Y fares tend to be about 3-5 times the
44 IAirAllie : I'm not sure why he is upset with AA. Is there any reason he might feel he was singled out? It seems unlikely that two seperate agents would have som
45 Lincoln : For what it's worth, the mere fact that it's full fare doesn't mean you're going to get flagged. All of my business travel is full fare (Y-class)...
46 AirframeAS : I dunno where you are buying your last minute, same day flying tickets, but those tickets cost a fortune!! More along the lines of a $800-$1,050.
47 Analog : IAH-northeast. Advance purchase is usually $150 each way (ballpark), usually requiring a r/t purchase. Full fare is $350-600 each way. Heck, even TAT
48 Camohe : I'm an Australian citizen living in Australia and have flown on five domestic United States flights in the past 2 years on AA and US when visiting. Al
49 Litz : Was once on a AA flight from McAllen, TX to Dallas ... and then onward from there back to ATL. DFW flight was hugely delayed and, since apparently no
50 Analog : Was your FF# attached to any of the PNRs? The general consensus is that having a FF#, even if freshly created just before you buy the ticket, reduces
51 Starlionblue : Yeah. When I first moved to the US, and flew every week, I was SSSS every single flight for the first few months. Then I seemed to no longer be a sec
52 AirframeAS : You just stated what I just said.
53 Helvknight : If I put my DL FF number in to a flight on NW or CO I will get the SSSS. Guaranteed. DL give me the SSSS always without exception. I've even had it i
54 Bond007 : You'd think after 54 posts, the OP might have entered the discussion .... Is there a a.net term for this?? Hit and Run ?? Jimbo
55 Cubsrule : There is nothing ticketing related that produces an automatic SSSS anymore. That is a massive change from the first few years after 9/11 when things
56 FLFlyGuy : Of course, creating a new reservation and reticketing it would take longer than going through the SSSS security check....which makes this rather poin
57 Post contains images Analog : It's hard to have P > 1 Translation: If you've got nothing to hide, what are you afraid of? I'd rather spend a few minutes at the counter than corral
58 BR715-A1-30 : SSSS = Super Special Security Search, LOL... Actually, I really don't know what it means. I always got it when I flew X-Fares on AirTran (I guess now
59 Super80DFW : I'm 14 years old, and I was flying on WN by myself and I remembered seeing "SSSS" on my Boarding Pass. The TSA worker marked my ticket as usual and le
60 BAe146QT : I just want to say that although I have never had four Ss on my boarding pass, I once had a really nice lady take off my belt at KMIA. I thought it wa
61 Analog : Maybe, but they probably just missed it. They also miss it a lot. I've seen it happen (not to me; one SSSS so far. Knocks on wood).
62 ZWRampRat : SSSS will also print out for same-day purchase/travel
63 Post contains links Luv2cattlecall : I've posted this on other threads, but the best way to avoid this waste of time? (Note: Please use discretion; Only use this if you are NOT, I repeat,
64 Bond007 : I do hope you are joking ... please tell me you are. If not, it's the most irresponsible piece of advice I ever seen on a.net ... and I've seen some
65 Starlionblue : I have no doubt this is criminal.
66 Analog : From personal experience, same-day purchases do not guarantee SSSS. They might increase the chance. You usually cannot get a boarding pass online if
67 IAirAllie : How about Type and Go?
68 Cubsrule : Do screeners anywhere but ORD actually pay attention to the date on the boarding pass?
69 Bond007 : Actually everywhere I've been recently, and after the TSA has been doing the initial ID/Pass checks instead of the contractors, it would appear they
70 Cubsrule : Interesting... they haven't been looking very closely in STL.
71 MQTmxguy : I'm gonna try to clear up some of the conjecture and third-hand information. In the past I have been an airline CSA with GSC (ground security coordina
72 Analog : Not any. Some reasons like race or religion would be illegal (unless there's an exception codified in the law somewhere). Why were/are airline employ
73 MQTmxguy : I should have been a little more specific, let me rephrase. The agent has the authority to make anyone a selectee if they for any reason feel the PAX
74 Cubsrule : So it could show up in individual legs of a connecting itinerary?
75 MQTmxguy : Normally only on the inbound and/or outbound originating leg. SSSS will show up on the check in screen for that PAX (at least in Fastair, I don't kno
76 Cubsrule : That's what I was wondering about. On an inbound international itinerary, where it automatically show up on the first domestic leg (i.e. the first po
77 Analog : So it's just "If once is good, four times is better"? So is SSSS determined all at once for a PNR? Can you see if someone's been SSSS'd on their retu
78 Starlionblue : One "S" is easy to miss. Four are not. And 4 is still fewer characters than "SELECTEE" so it doesn't take too much space.
79 Jhooper : We're not giving them any ideas. They're coming up with the ideas on their own--that's why we have people constantly testing our security to identify
80 MQTmxguy : Depends on the airport (whether or not you have to leave the sterile area to get to your domestic connection), the country you originated at, and whe
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