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Southwest Crew Schedual Question.  
User currently offlineUsair320 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 991 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3402 times:

I just got back from SDF on WN 806 which was routed TPA-SDF-MDW-DEN-ABQ-PHX-BUR. I was only on the SDF-MDW-DEN-ABQ portion but I did notice a crew change in DEN but it was only 2:00 (I imagine they took a brief rest before flying again due to FAA regs) so did they probally go elsewhere? Also on the way out my flight was WN 87 from ABQ-DAL-STL-SDF-TPA-PBI with a change in STL (Was an ABQ originator). Maybe some WN employees can help with my question.

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User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3143 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

I'm not with SWA but swapping crews/aircraft is not uncommon. I've been in as many as four aircraft in one day.

If the crew was done for the day, they were going to head to the hotel. There's no such thing as a "brief"rest.



DMI
User currently offlineMark5388916 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

Wait till OPNL shows up, hes a WN dispatcher, he can fill you in.

Mark



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User currently offlineBarney Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 920 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3380 times:

We generally stay with the same a/c all day - but 1 or 2 plane changes are not uncommon. We basically have AM and PM trips - start @ dawn, finish in the afternoon, or start in the afternoon and finish @ 10-11pm. This is VERY general and can vary quite a bit, but as the a/c works its way through the day, any number of crews get plugged in along the way to make the schedule flow. I can remember flying 6 legs in the same a/c, only to go through 3 sets of FA's. It's a dance that requires A LOT of work and when you throw weather, mechanicals, and work regulations in to the mix, it gets interesting very fast. A crew schedulers job is not an easy one.


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User currently offlineRJFlyer0891 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3225 times:



Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 1):
There's no such thing as a "brief"rest.

Sure there is, when we reassign you to additional flying with a 2-3 hour sit at the airport!  duck 


User currently offlineDufo From Slovenia, joined May 1999, 798 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3214 times:



Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 1):
There's no such thing as a "brief"rest.

In a way, there is - split duty. Anywhere between 2h59m and 10h59m of break between the flights.



I seriously think I just creamed my pants without any influence from any outside variables.
User currently offlinePeterPuck From Canada, joined Jun 2004, 322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3199 times:



Quoting Dufo (Reply 5):
In a way, there is - split duty. Anywhere between 2h59m and 10h59m of break between the flights

At least in Canada, a split duty day requires a minimum rest period of 4 hrs in a suitable accommodation for proper rest. A break at the airport doesn't count.


User currently offlineDufo From Slovenia, joined May 1999, 798 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3186 times:



Quoting PeterPuck (Reply 6):
At least in Canada, a split duty day requires a minimum rest period of 4 hrs in a suitable accommodation for proper rest. A break at the airport doesn't count.

From our OM..

A suitable accommodation will be provided in case that the period of break is 4 hours and more or if
break of 3 and more hours coincides into time between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. of the local time in place
of break. In other cases adequate facilities must be provided.

So it depends. And I agree, spending those hours at the airport is useless rest..



I seriously think I just creamed my pants without any influence from any outside variables.
User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3143 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3105 times:



Quoting Dufo (Reply 5):

In a way, there is - split duty. Anywhere between 2h59m and 10h59m of break between the flights.

I don't consider stand-up rest periods (continuous duty overnights) to be rest periods.



DMI
User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2653 times:
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Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 1):

If the crew was done for the day, they were going to head to the hotel. There's no such thing as a "brief"rest.

Jw, when do the crew eat lunch, especially with WN's tight turns?



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8021 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2650 times:



Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 9):

Jw, when do the crew eat lunch, especially with WN's tight turns?

It's called "the Burrito dash". Every seasoned crew has a failsafe takeout option nearest the company gates in just about any airport with decent offerings  Wink On a 30 minute turn there should be enough time to grab a burrito, in theory.



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User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1430 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2528 times:



Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 9):
Jw, when do the crew eat lunch, especially with WN's tight turns?

We rarely have time (FA's) to leave the plane and if the pilots don't offer (most do) then we don't get to eat. It was difficult for a while with some complicated FAR interpretation issues we've had regarding minimum crew, but it'll change back in a few days and one FA will be able to make a food run occasionally. Of course if we're experiencing IROP then it can be a long time before you eat any real food.

I personally try to bring a food-bag with lots of fruits, veggies, nuts, pasts, bread... good stuff to snack on and stay healthy!



ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2493 times:



Quoting WNCrew (Reply 11):
with lots of fruits

Why? So you can gas up the plane?! And I'm not talking about fuel either! jk jk  laughing 



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