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User currently offlineWilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1315 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 3332 times:

This past Thursday I was driving into Houston on 290 when I looked up and saw aircraft turning onto final heading east. Thats unusual as most of the arrivals into IAH land toward the west no matter if its a south or north wind. My question is -

1.Why was ATC turning aircraft onto final some 30 plus miles from the airport? Is it because the southern runway is not useable from the western approaches since it would fly over the twin NW/SE runways used for departures? So more traffic is thrown on the two runways on the north side?

2.And when using this pattern do they use the east/west runway on the south side of the airport for departures east since it cannot be used for landings from the west?

Thank you in advance.

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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 3221 times:



Quoting William (Thread starter):
Thats unusual as most of the arrivals into IAH land toward the west no matter if its a south or north wind. My question is -

Northeast wind and some and wet runways don't make landing west a very friendly thing.....yes, even IAH lands east at times and not all that unusual as you'd think.

Quoting William (Thread starter):
1.Why was ATC turning aircraft onto final some 30 plus miles from the airport? Is it because the southern runway is not useable from the western approaches since it would fly over the twin NW/SE runways used for departures? So more traffic is thrown on the two runways on the north side?

If you were on 290 you were seeing a final about 20 miles or so, not 30 but 30 does happen more and more.

Turning final 20-25 miles out is fairly common, and when using 3 runways almost 25-30 miles due to the requirement for 1,000' of altitude between the 3 different runways, ensuring aircraft intercept the final at or below glideslope which at times makes it a very difficult process when your feed from the enroute facility isn't the best due to winds, short side, and other options, and the freeeeeakn NIMBY non sense over Champions.

Departures actually can flow pretty simple when landing the 8's....toss landing on 9 into the mix and then you have the issue of overlying the 15's. But if landing only 8L/R, you can actually get the departures out quicker, (or should be able to) since you depart 15L/R with everyone except northbound traffic, they blast off on 9 without any arrivals.

Quoting William (Thread starter):
2.And when using this pattern do they use the east/west runway on the south side of the airport for departures east since it cannot be used for landings from the west?

See above answer, but you got it.....now come sign up and work!  Smile



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User currently offlineATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2324 posts, RR: 38
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

I replied on the HoustonSpotters.net post. But pretty much the same as my esteemed colleague from downstairs said.

ATCT



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3132 times:



Quoting ATCT (Reply 2):
I replied on the HoustonSpotters.net post. But pretty much the same as my esteemed colleague from downstairs said

That is very very scary!!

Oh does esteemed mean OLD?  crackup 



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User currently offlineWilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3097 times:

Thank you very much for your answers.

User currently offlineWilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3088 times:

Thank you very much for your answers.

User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2815 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3015 times:



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
yes, even IAH lands east at times and not all that unusual as you'd think.

True! IAH is almost as reluctant as LAX at switching their runway configurations, but they'll do it  Smile


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

The joke is if IAH is landing east, the wind has to be out of the west!  Wow!  alert 


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User currently offlineThePinnacleKid From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 731 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

hey IAHFLYR.... on the other end of you guys... we always joke that landing west the winds must be from the east... and the reported wind speed is proportional to the real wind speed... aka... 060@9 is really 060@15G20 but we'll land on the 26's anyway.... =)

all seriousness... you guys do great work! Always fun playin the game with ya'll.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2960 times:



Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 8):
060@9 is really 060@15G20 but we'll land on the 26's anyway.... =)

Ya know, the friken digital ATIS has really no idea what goes on at the airport......INFORMATIO OOAHKAR!

Yes, you know the plan, the object is to land..........regardless if the runway is dry.  Smile



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