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What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?  
User currently offlineAirCatalonia From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 544 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3784 times:



Quote:
"The pilot indicated that he was going to be making an emergency landing at speed"
West Yorkshire Police spokesman

Full story here: Austrian F100 emergency at LBA

Is this an Austrian procedure only?  Wink

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User currently offlinePianos101 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3774 times:

maybe the flaps weren't working? To me that's what "at speed" would mean....

User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3774 times:
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Quoting AirCatalonia (Thread starter):
Full story here: Austrian F100 emergency at LBA

Is this an Austrian procedure only? Wink

Well, I was asking myself the same question and I am a pilot!

I just know: with one engine out you dont put in as much flaps as you would with all engines running normal. So you have a higher approach speed. Maybe thats why they call it "at speed"... thats the only thing I can think of now

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User currently offlineAviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1351 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3757 times:

I think Wilco is right. "At speed" sounds like a colloquial way of saying "faster than normal."


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User currently offlineAvt007 From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 2132 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3631 times:

The quote comes from a police officer, who is no more knowledgeable about aircraft than the media.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31660 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3568 times:

Technically one would think it means "A landing with Flaps up or not extended to needed position",but from reading the article it could mean "urgent"
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User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 3398 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 2):
I just know: with one engine out you dont put in as much flaps as you would with all engines running normal.

True for most types but not all, the A320 family in particular is happy to land Flap FULL even single engine.

Can't speak for the F-100.



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User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3460 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3378 times:



Quoting Rick767 (Reply 6):
True for most types but not all, the A320 family in particular is happy to land Flap FULL even single engine.

But is that the procedure for a single-engine landing? Or is the normal go-around flap setting used as a precaution in case of a go-around?

Quoting Rick767 (Reply 6):
Can't speak for the F-100.

It's been a long time since I flew the F-100 but IIRC, flaps-8 was used for single-engine approach/landing... to facilitate go-arounds if needed.  wink 



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3373 times:
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Quoting Rick767 (Reply 6):
True for most types but not all, the A320 family in particular is happy to land Flap FULL even single engine.

Flaps FULL with single engine during approach and landing? Wow, I hope you guys can make the PDG for the missed approach procedure in case of a single engine go around!
On the 737 you only put in flaps 15 ISO 30 or 40.

On the MD11F you use flaps 35 when one engine is out...

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User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

Don't fly the A320 anymore but indeed it's Flap FULL for both s/e and normal landings.

In the event of a Go around "Go Around Flap" is the call, then PNF selects F3. Same for two engines, and s/e. So easy. I miss the Airbus!!

And yes, it achieves great performance on a missed approach even single engine at or near MLW.



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3344 times:
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Quoting Rick767 (Reply 9):

Alright, didnt know that! thanks for the info!

Safe flying!

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