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User currently offlineSuper737 From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Feb 2008, 105 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7755 times:

Hi, im considering a career in airline operations. Iam very interested in the crewing department and i have looked at the CAP document about crewing and FTL and FDP limitations. COould anybody tell me about there own experiences in this department and what the salary would be in GBP? I would like to thank everybody in advance for their responses  

[Edited 2008-02-09 11:25:58]


If its not a super tractor its not a plane
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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7705 times:

Are you talking about rostering in Flt ops....Out here thats done by the Flight despatcher as an addon job.

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineDrP From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 280 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7683 times:

It wholly depends what rank you start at and which airline you go to with regards to salary but it is an interesting job, especially if you get to know the rules and regulations well. PM me for more info if you need it  Smile


My pony plays the mamba . .
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7648 times:



Quoting Super737 (Thread starter):

I've never heard the job called Crewing Officert.... most of what I hear is 'Screw' Scheduler.......aka... Crew Scheduler. Not a very popular job at many airlines.



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2350 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7639 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
Not a very popular job at many airlines.

Yea I hated crew scheduling, They were'nt permitted to hang out with me ever. Scumbags!

ATCT



"The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing." - Walt Disney
User currently offlineSuper737 From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Feb 2008, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7600 times:

Thanks for all of the replies everyone!


If its not a super tractor its not a plane
User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7577 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
I've never heard the job called Crewing Officert.... most of what I hear is 'Screw' Scheduler.......aka... Crew Scheduler. Not a very popular job at many airlines.



Quoting ATCT (Reply 4):
Yea I hated crew scheduling, They were'nt permitted to hang out with me ever. Scumbags!

You apparently must have never been on the phone with a pilot who is screaming at the top of their lungs and acting like a complete bitch. I know quite a few schedulers and they don't have crap to do with what/where/when you fly. Blame the program. All they do is go down the list and start with the first guy, if he's "sick" you go to the next one and so on.



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7572 times:



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 6):
You apparently must have never been on the phone with a pilot who is screaming at the top of their lungs and acting like a complete bitch. I know quite a few schedulers and they don't have crap to do with what/where/when you fly. Blame the program. All they do is go down the list and start with the first guy, if he's "sick" you go to the next one and so on.

I guess I'm somewhat confused. How does a 16-20 yo, flight student/college student know anything about crew scheduling and dealing with them on a regualr basis? If you believe it's the program, I have some ocean front property in AZ and a bridge in NY I'd like to talk to you about buying!

Crew schedulers are human. You help them, they help you. Dump on them, they will dump on you. Simple fact of life.


User currently offlineBFSBHD From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7548 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 7):
I guess I'm somewhat confused. How does a 16-20 yo, flight student/college student know anything about crew scheduling and dealing with them on a regualr basis?

Maybe he learnt about it in college  wink  .


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7541 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 7):

Thanks bud.... I was thinking the samething. I've been in commercial aviation almost as long as he's been on this planet and was wondering how he's become so wise.

[Edited 2008-02-11 13:27:37]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7490 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 7):
guess I'm somewhat confused. How does a 16-20 yo, flight student/college student know anything about crew scheduling and dealing with them on a regualr basis? If you believe it's the program, I have some ocean front property in AZ and a bridge in NY I'd like to talk to you about buying!

My mother is a scheduler   .

[Edited 2008-02-12 11:24:12]


What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7490 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
Thanks bud.... I was thinking the samething. I've been in commercial aviation almost as long as he's been on this planet and was wondering how he's become so wise.

Why do you guys always have to bring age in everything? I guess a "16-20 year old can't learn anything from their peers, mentors, and the like. I get the same flack whenever I make a comment about airline pilot life. I guess I'm lucky, my father is a pilot with Continental so aviation is what I love and I will continue to make my comments...se above post by the way.

[Edited 2008-02-12 11:27:53]


What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7475 times:



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 11):

Why do you guys always have to bring age in everything?

Because many of us actually live it..... you dream about it and get your information 2nd or 3rd hand.

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 11):
I get the same flack whenever I make a comment about airline pilot life.

What airline pilot life......??? Your Dad is the pilot... not you.



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7457 times:



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 11):
Why do you guys always have to bring age in everything? I guess a "16-20 year old can't learn anything from their peers, mentors, and the like. I get the same flack whenever I make a comment about airline pilot life. I guess I'm lucky, my father is a pilot with Continental so aviation is what I love and I will continue to make my comments...se above post by the way.

It's called misrepresentation!


User currently offlineATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2350 posts, RR: 37
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7443 times:

I was a flight attendant and supervisor (thats my dealings with scheduling...I gotta love being 'junior manned' when im #2 on the seniority, that was a funny one...idiots). My other background was ramp rat through college, pvt pilot, aerial cameraman on a R-44, and ATC in my current career (it is my real job now, I still fly and work on planes on the side...working on finishing my A&P at the moment).

I still dont like screw scheduling.

ATCT



"The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing." - Walt Disney
User currently offlinePGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2858 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks ago) and read 7434 times:



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 11):
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
Thanks bud.... I was thinking the samething. I've been in commercial aviation almost as long as he's been on this planet and was wondering how he's become so wise.

Why do you guys always have to bring age in everything? I guess a "16-20 year old can't learn anything from their peers, mentors, and the like. I get the same flack whenever I make a comment about airline pilot life. I guess I'm lucky, my father is a pilot with Continental so aviation is what I love and I will continue to make my comments...se above post by the way.

I met Jim Lovell and Buzz Aldrin, so I guess I'm fully qualified to comment on the Gemini and Apollo spaceflight programs.  Yeah sure

While it's true that you can learn a lot from pilots, mentors, and even informed people on this site, many younger participants then way overstep the bounds of credibility and credulity by making comments that they are wholly unqualified to render.

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 13):
It's called misrepresentation!

And a lot of other things...


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7413 times:

What transpires when the Crew schedulers finds the Rostered crew sick & the Standby crew not in a position to fly  Smile
Tough task convincing the 3rd option.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineDrP From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 280 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7381 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 7):
Crew schedulers are human. You help them, they help you. Dump on them, they will dump on you. Simple fact of life.

Never a truer sentence written!!!  Smile



My pony plays the mamba . .
User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7336 times:

Crewing can be an easy job if you have little sickness but as soon as you have used up your standby resources then you have to start asking people to work on days off and the like.
Also I have had people shouting down the phone at me, but they are the minorty!

As Phil Squares says it works both ways, if I help them out they will help me out when I am in a sticky situation and need a flight crewed.


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