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737 Cockpit Window Question ( Not Eyebrow Window)  
User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2003 posts, RR: 19
Posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7691 times:

Hey Guys:

This Is NOT a question about the eyebrow windows, I figure I'd clarify that one!

I have noticed this on a lot of Boeing 737's in which the cockpit window which the Pilots sit near, always have maps, or what not on the windowsill, and I always wondered why is it on the 737 and I even believe that some of the 727s and 707s had the same feature let me show you some examples:


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I never noticed any A320s or 767s or what not with this, anyone out there care to explain?


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User currently offlineJetMech From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 2587 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7684 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Thread starter):

Basically, most commercial airliners have built in clip board clamps on the window sills. This is what is most probably holding the paperwork you see on the 737. You can see these clips in the following photos.


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Regards, JetMech


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7619 times:

It would depend on the type....I feel the B737 #2 pane construction has space to hold a few cards.
Eg the B757 has the Map holder on the lower frame of the P2 window on both sides.

regds
MEL


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User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7580 times:

Here's what the inside looks like:



User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3690 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7545 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Thread starter):
I never noticed any A320s or 767s or what not with this, anyone out there care to explain?

Well on the A320 you have a big table to put the maps on, so you don't need the windowsill.
On B767 and B757 there is a fold down clip board just fwd and below the DV window.

User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7498 times:

Look closely at the bottom right photo from JetMech's links and you can see the clipboard on the very left and right edges of the 737 cockpit photo. No room or strength of spring-clip will hold the small binder (normally called a "trip book") used to hold the charts needed for the trip the pilot is currently flying. Numerous AA pilots have tried to modify their trip book so it will stay in place in that location, but most simply pull out the pages they'll need and clip them to the clipboard. The space behind the clipboard is nearly perfect for holding a 1" Jepp binder. It is convienent and pretty secure place so that's why you so often see papers & charts, etc. stored there.

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 4):
On B767 and B757 there is a fold down clip board just fwd and below the DV window.

The 757 has a fold-open clipboard where you open the clipboard and it has a small ledge on the bottom that will support the trip book. Just need a small spring clip to hold everything in place. Loved that feature. Unfortunately, AA's 767s did not come with that option so most pilots simply placed their trip book on top of their kit bag. Since it could be read in place, there was no need to keep it on the window sill behind the clipboard.


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User currently offlineZB330 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7442 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 4):
Well on the A320 you have a big table to put the maps on, so you don't need the windowsill.

Sorry Steve, but even on the A320/A330 we have the chartholders on the windowsill. See the picture posted by JetMech (top right). The big table has to be stored for Take-Off and Landing.

User currently offlineCoolGuy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7235 times:



Quoting Miamiair (Reply 3):
Here's what the inside looks like:

Where did you find that? Can we see other pages online?

User currently offlineIFixPlanes From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7230 times:



Quoting CoolGuy (Reply 7):
Where did you find that? Can we see other pages online?

Looks like the IPC (Illustrated Parts Catalog) and no, you normally don´t find it online.


never tell an engineer he is wrong ;-)
User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 81
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7188 times:



Quoting IFixPlanes (Reply 8):
Looks like the IPC (Illustrated Parts Catalog) and no, you normally don´t find it online.

Definitely an IPC illustration. The item numbers are the giveaway. It's online at myboeingfleet.com if you have an account (the Airbus equivalent is airbusworld.com).

Tom.
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