Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 24473 posts, RR: 22 Posted (8 years 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5034 times:
I watched a US ramper have a really hard time getting the cargo door shut on a 190 last night... Eventually, he pulled the beltloader he was standing on away, reached into the cargo compartment, and retrieved some sort of pole with a hook which he used to grab onto the door and shut it. Is that pole standard equipment, or is it a US thing? And are the doors that hard to close, or was he just having trouble because he was (giving him the benefit of the doubt) new to working on the aircraft?
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Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6170 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4817 times:
Any pictures of said implement? It seems to me that if Embraer did a good enough job of shrinking the design of the A320, they could've at least done a similar setup with the cargo doors (although, having to lay on one's back to open/close the door, a la the 320, would be awkward.)
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It looks just like a walking cane....and about the same size too. When the door fully open a latch on the upper hinge helps hold the door open. To close the door you insert the cane hook into the latch and twist to unlock. Pull down until you can grab the handle, stow the cane.. close and lock the door.
Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 5): they could've at least done a similar setup with the cargo doors
Why over design it...? Its a simple system that works..........If you want to do some digging.. when jetBlue first got their E190, A.net member 'Candais'....( I think that right) posted some pictures of the Ramp Crew getting train on its use.
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B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2950 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4764 times:
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 6): Why over design it...? Its a simple system that works..........If you want to do some digging.. when jetBlue first got their E190, A.net member 'Candais'....( I think that right) posted some pictures of the Ramp Crew getting train on its use.
The A320 door is definitely more complex as (IIRC) they are hydraulically driven which would require actuators and stuff which not only increases the complexity of the door system but adds weight and MX costs.
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