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User currently offlineSonic From Lithuania, joined Jan 2000, 1670 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4307 times:

It seems it is a common practice in some airlines for a pilot(?) to pray before the flight (Royal Brunei for example) and this prayer is said aloud to the passengers in the similar matter as the safety information.

I wonder are these prayers played from a recording usually or are they done by a pilot (captain, first officer) real-time? If the latter is the case, is it mandatory for the pilots? Which airlines has the practice of pre-flight prayers? Are there any carriers based in non-muslim countries which uses the practice of pre-flight prayers?

I live in Europe and only heard pre-flight prayers several times but maybe somebody who is living in areas where this is common or is flying frequently there or is working for an airline practicising this could shed some more light on this.

[Edited 2008-04-21 16:27:06]

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User currently offlineImiakhtar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4300 times:



Quoting Sonic (Thread starter):
I wonder are these prayers played from a recording usually or are they done by a pilot (captain, first officer) real-time? If the latter is the case, is it mandatory for the pilots? Which airlines has the practice of pre-flight prayers? Are there any carriers based in non-muslim countries which uses the practice of pre-flight prayers?

The prayer is done real-time by the pilot. The prayer ( for when embarking on any form of transport be it a camel or a B777) is not mandatory but preferable. I don't know whether any airlines have officially got it down on their checklist before departure. My last trip to Pakistan on PK, the prayer was recited on the outbound flight but not the return, so I guess it all depends on whether the pilots can be bothered. I've never heard of a "non-muslim" airline reciting it.

Regards
 Smile


User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4274 times:

These prayers are normally (but not always) recorded specifically for the cabin PA system, by an outside vendor, duly authorized by the airline in question.

User currently offlineAnalog From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4270 times:

Doesn't AS distribute prayer cards with meals?

Quoting Sonic (Thread starter):
It seems it is a common practice in some airlines for a pilot(?) to pray before the flight (Royal Brunei for example) and this prayer is said aloud to the passengers in the similar matter as the safety information.

What are these prayers about? Are they thanks for something (a job, opportunity to travel, etc.), a statement of faith, a request for protection, or something else? A request for protection could be kind of disturbing (not that I would understand Arabic).


User currently offlineImiakhtar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4266 times:



Quoting 411A (Reply 2):
These prayers are normally (but not always) recorded specifically for the cabin PA system, by an outside vendor, duly authorized by the airline in question.

In my experience, they've always been recited in person by a pilot, or on occasion cabin crew.

Quoting Analog (Reply 3):
Are they thanks for something (a job, opportunity to travel, etc.)

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Precisely


User currently offlineReidYYZ From Kyrgyzstan, joined Sep 2005, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4257 times:

From my parents, well mostly my Ma, before any long trip be it car or aircraft. I still do the sign of the Cross. It drives my wife nuts "What are you doing that for?? Do you think there is a problem?"

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4156 times:

I knew a Pilot thatr started off his First flight of the Day,With a prayer in the NWW & a tap on the RH side of the radome.This was a B737.
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regds
MEL



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User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1711 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4092 times:



Quoting Analog (Reply 3):

I believe that the prayers make the Muslims onboard the flight feel more safe, especially the ones that are afraid of flying. It's always nice to know that Allah is on your side.

Does anyone know if airlines like IR, EY, OR, etc also make prayers before pushback



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User currently offlineBWilliams From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3804 times:



Quoting Imiakhtar (Reply 4):
In my experience, they've always been recited in person by a pilot, or on occasion cabin crew.

On MS, it is part of the IFE system. I was on MS 772s and 735s, and on both types, it was a recording played over the IFE with the text of the prayers scrolled in Arabic on the screens.



Regards, Brad Williams
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3791 times:



Quoting Analog (Reply 3):
Doesn't AS distribute prayer cards with meals?

Continental (1980s) used to have a really nice one--I think I still have one...


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3770 times:



Quoting Analog (Reply 3):
A request for protection could be kind of disturbing (not that I would understand Arabic).

That all depends on your cultural context.  Wink Many people are more fatalistic than Westerners.

BTW on Royal Brunei they wouldn't be speaking Arabic, but Malay.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 7):

I believe that the prayers make the Muslims onboard the flight feel more safe, especially the ones that are afraid of flying. It's always nice to know that Allah is on your side.

Aren't you now assuming what the pax think?  Wink



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