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User currently offlineDIALLO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1085 times:

Can someone explain the term Short Finals ? Thanx
 Smokin cool

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User currently offlineSoCalApch From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1035 times:

Refers to a plane landing within approx. one mile of the runway.

User currently offlineDIALLO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1030 times:

So aircraft can be vectored in for finals within one mile of the threshold ? Hmmmm. I know its a basic question, but I was looking for some in depth info on the topic.

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6278 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1025 times:

SoCalApch. Perhaps you could rephrase that? You just described a crash.


Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offlineNicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1020 times:

I've been told that short final is approx. 200 ft from the runway threshold, now this is have never been confirmed to me.

User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1018 times:

I know of no "official" definition of the phrase. I common usuage it refers to aircraft approaching the runway - less than about 1/2 mile out.

User currently offlineSoCalApch From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 998 times:

Jetguy said it best.

User currently offlineJunior From Switzerland, joined Apr 2001, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 993 times:

Passing through 300', waiting desperately for the landing clearance, even 1 mile qualifies as short final.

User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 975 times:

I don't call 1 mile short final, and neither do the controllers I've worked with. They'll call airplanes on 1/2 mile final "1/2 mile final". If you hear them say short final, their target is usually almost over the runway.


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User currently offlineDIALLO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 974 times:

So i'm guessing after the last approach controller hands you off to the tower, the tower controller usually issues the landing clearance upon initial contact. If the clearance hasn't been received and your something like a mile out, u contact the tower again and inform them that your on "short" finals to remind them to give you the clearance ?

User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4191 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 974 times:

Ive usually heard short final being described as an airplane approaching the approach lights or threshold... around 1/2-1/4 mile you could say. Ive never heard an actual distance measurement for it...Id like to know if there is one.. Ive always assumed what it meant...basically landing iminent.


Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 943 times:

No, if you don't have, or want to confirm landing clearance, you shouldn't wait until you're "short final" you should call tower and say something like "am I cleared to land?" long before your nearly touching down. The term "short final" is generally used by the tower to point out one airplane to another, just a position report.

I don't believe there is any set distance for "short final" just whatever looks "short" to whoever is calling the "short final"  Big thumbs up



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