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What Did They Do To This Thing?  
User currently onlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2118 posts, RR: 6
Posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4686 times:

Hey everyone. I'm fairly sure at least a few of you have seen the movie Iron Man. In the scene where Tony is flying to Afghanistan, it shows some shots of a heavily modified plane that appears to be a BBJ 2. It seems to have a V-tail and downward-angled wingtips, but it is clearly a 737 because of the cockpit window layout and flattened engines. How exactly did they do this, and could it ever fly in reality?


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User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4677 times:



Quoting UltimateDelta (Thread starter):
How exactly did they do this

I have not seen the movie but the answer is definitively computer animation

/Lars



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17028 posts, RR: 67
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4550 times:

Computer animation. As you say everything forward of the tail looks to be a BBJ2 except the wingtips. The tail is a V-tail with an embedded intake. Very nifty.

Of course it could fly in reality, but you'd need to figure out why you wanted to design it that way.


BTW the movie was great; much better than it "should have been". Superheroes, good actors and good acting? Will wonders never cease? Robert Downey Jr. is stellar.

[Edited 2008-05-18 21:18:37]

[Edited 2008-05-18 21:57:21]


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4472 times:

Ever watch the "Seconds from disaster" or " Mayday" series.....Those are all computer animated recreating real situations.

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MEL



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User currently offlineBandA From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4321 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3):
Ever watch the "Seconds from disaster" or " Mayday" series.....Those are all computer animated recreating real situations.

regds
MEL

yea, they do a rather good job of it too.



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User currently onlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2118 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 4288 times:



Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 2):
Computer animation

What's weird is that that never really ever occured to me as I watched it.



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User currently offline9VSIO From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 714 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4137 times:
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I actually thought they might have done a mock up, like the liner in the last James Bond film..


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User currently offlineDC-10Tech From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 298 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4130 times:

It looked to me like the 737 BBJ merged with the tail section of the Global Hawk. I really saw no point in this 'modification' except for some subtle advertising for the manufacturers of both. Big grin


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17028 posts, RR: 67
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4130 times:



Quoting DC-10Tech (Reply 7):
It looked to me like the 737 BBJ merged with the tail section of the Global Hawk. I really saw no point in this 'modification' except for some subtle advertising for the manufacturers of both

Ehm, how about the "cool" factor?  Wink



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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3068 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

I seem to remember one of the very earliest jet fighters, either a pre-ME262 prototype or a British analogue of same, had twin underwing mounted engines with nacelles that were slightly flattened on the bottom (a la 737) and a V-tail (2H4, please help me out here if you can).

Perhaps the plane in the Iron Man movie was designed to suggest the aircraft I'm thinking of?



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User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4029 times:

Quoting TSS (Reply 9):
I seem to remember one of the very earliest jet fighters, either a pre-ME262 prototype or a British analogue of same, had twin underwing mounted engines with nacelles that were slightly flattened on the bottom (a la 737) and a V-tail

There's the Messerschmitt Me 262 HG II
http://www.luft46.com/dsart/ds262hg.html

But I have a hard time seeing the BBJ2/Global hawk hybrid look just a little bit like it   

I know it's from wikipedia, but it's the best I've got.

Quote:
Interest in high-speed flight, which led him to initiate work on swept wings starting in 1940, is evident from the advanced developments Messerschmitt had on his drawing board in 1944. While the Me-262 HG I actually flight tested in 1944 had only small changes compared to combat aircraft, most notably a low-profile canopy (tried as the Rennkabine (literally racing cabin) on the Me 262 V9 prototype for a short time) to reduce drag, the HG II and HG III designs were far more radical. The projected HG II combined the low-drag canopy with a 35° wing sweep and a butterfly tail. The HG III had a conventional tail, but a 45° wing sweep and turbines embedded in the wingroot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262#cite_ref-14

/Lars

[Edited 2008-05-19 23:43:47]

[Edited 2008-05-19 23:45:37]


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3984 times:



Quoting BandA (Reply 4):
yea, they do a rather good job of it too.

A good Link

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineAKiss20 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 608 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3742 times:

Haha when I saw that I cringed. Destroying a perfectly good BBJ for that aeronautical mess.


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User currently offlineDC-10Tech From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 298 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3223 times:



Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 8):
Ehm, how about the "cool" factor?

I thought of it more as the bizarre factor. Big grin



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3148 times:



Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 12):



Haha when I saw that I cringed. Destroying a perfectly good BBJ for that aeronautical mess.

Could it be that the mod of the Aircraft eliminates a legal battle by the Airlcraft manufacturer  Smile

regds
MEL



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