NicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1051 posts, RR: 1 Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2727 times:
Hey there,
just saw the "new" Kalitta 747 Freighter, which is a converted ex-Malaysia aircraft.
Of course, as ex-pax airplane, it has its normal length 747 upperdeck and i wonder what it is used for? Parcels? Bulk freight?
PhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2726 times:
Quoting NicoEDDF (Thread starter): just saw the "new" Kalitta 747 Freighter, which is a converted ex-Malaysia aircraft.
Of course, as ex-pax airplane, it has its normal length 747 upperdeck and i wonder what it is used for? Parcels? Bulk freight?
IIRC, the on the conversion the upper deck is from the aft of the upper deck doors forward. The upper deck is used for any freight, either bulk or parcel.
Tod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1682 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2567 times:
Quoting NicoEDDF (Thread starter): just saw the "new" Kalitta 747 Freighter, which is a converted ex-Malaysia aircraft.
Of course, as ex-pax airplane, it has its normal length 747 upperdeck and i wonder what it is used for? Parcels? Bulk freight?
If the conversion was done by Boeing then the u/d floor ends aft of the doors. The forward portion will have a lav, a galley and overhead stow bins. It can also include seats and/or bunks depending on the customer configuration.
Flyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1334 posts, RR: 27 Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2191 times:
Actually, I've never seen any cargo go upstairs on our 744CF. We have 12 lie flat seats, a galley, a lav and a bunk area with two beds. The area right behind the exit doors upstairs is empty. The flooring has been removed and there is a door there. At the top of the ladder to the upper deck, there is a door that acts as the smoke barrier that prevents fumes and smoke from entering from the main deck should there be a fire or leak of any hazmat.
Flyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1334 posts, RR: 27 Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2151 times:
It is a former MH aircraft, and to put in different seats would have required a recertification of the aircraft with new seats...whereas if we just left the MH seats on it, no new certificate was needed. How they came to the number that we have, I don't know...
However, I can say that on some of the flights I've seen 4 pilots in the cockpit, 2 mechanics, one loadmaster and two other pilots in the cabin, so the seats are being used.
Xerses From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 6 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2142 times:
forgive my ignorance, but what does "B744F/BFC " refer to? a Boeing 747-444? What's BFC? Is there a list somewhere that gives all these terms?
Tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80 Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2134 times:
Quoting Xerses (Reply 10): forgive my ignorance, but what does "B744F/BFC " refer to? a Boeing 747-444? What's BFC? Is there a list somewhere that gives all these terms?
A 747-400F is a 747 built as a freighter by Boeing. A 747-400BCF is a "Boeing Converted Freighter". It began life as a 747-400 passenger aircraft and then was converted to a freighter using Boeing modifications.
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5339 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1954 times:
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 3): So basically you can stack higher under the back of the hump.
No, you can't.
The flight control cables travel through the upper deck floor, and are not repositioned. The aft half of the upper deck cabin isn't furnished with anything, to save the weight.
JAL's 744-BCF aircraft have 12 business class seats upstairs, and a galley just aft of the exit doors. aft of that is just a wall, with blowout doors.
Qantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1252 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1931 times:
Quoting Flyer732 (Reply 9): It is a former MH aircraft, and to put in different seats would have required a recertification of the aircraft with new seats...whereas if we just left the MH seats on it, no new certificate was needed. How they came to the number that we have, I don't know...
However, I can say that on some of the flights I've seen 4 pilots in the cockpit, 2 mechanics, one loadmaster and two other pilots in the cabin, so the seats are being used.
Theres a shot of what the cabin looks like.
Man you guys are really lucky that you got to keep those new MH Business class seats!
The first 4 (444) refers to the specific series - in this case the 747-400. The last two 4's is the designated customer code, which was introduced by Boeing in order to identify the first owner of the plane. In this case 44 = South African Airways.
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The TV's are still there, but they do not work. The system was taken out during the conversion. So its just like any other freighter in our fleet, except the seats are much nicer, and there is loads more room.
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