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User currently offlineOasis From Canada, joined May 2008, 62 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3371 times:

This is a silly question, but I would like to find out an answer to it:

Do big passenger jets have locks on the doors? Locks that require a key to be opened from the outside.

Thanks,
Ben


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3352 times:

No they do not....................


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User currently offlineCopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1105 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

I'm not aware of any that do. Generally they're kept in a pretty secure area, so there is little need for locks.

User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 3546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3265 times:
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Quoting Oasis (Thread starter):
Do big passenger jets have locks on the doors? Locks that require a key to be opened from the outside.



Quoting Oasis (Thread starter):
No they do not....................

I've never seen locks on a passenger jet... They do get seals on the door occasionally so the crew would know if the jets been tampered with....

Exterior handle on the C-130 crew door has holes for a padlock and I've seen it used that way on a number of occasions...



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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3245 times:



Quoting Oasis (Thread starter):
Do big passenger jets have locks on the doors? Locks that require a key to be opened from the outside.

Not normally. I know of at least one 737-BBJ that has them, but it was a non-Boeing mod done by the owner and a special item.

Tom.


User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3154 times:

The AN-12 and IL 76 have a big lock and big key...

User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1480 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

WN being my second airline I have never seen them. Not only are RON aircraft generally either remote parked (requiring a jetway to even access the door) but if they're left at the jetway then generally the jetway is pulled back too far to access the aircraft; and the jetway does have a key.


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User currently offlinePGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2832 posts, RR: 45
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2930 times:



Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 3):
Quoting Oasis (Thread starter):
No they do not....................

I've never seen locks on a passenger jet... They do get seals on the door occasionally so the crew would know if the jets been tampered with....

I have worked for three airlines and have never seen them; I am confident they are not OEM equipment on any common large airliner. Our aircraft DO get seals put on the doors and access panels when overnighting at an International station. They are "Tamper Evident" but by no means "Tamper Proof". Hope this helps!  Smile


User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2859 times:

Where I worked it was generally assumed that when the aircraft were left alone at night they were safe, because if you know how to get onto airside, open the door, and find a way to get up and in that you probably worked there.

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 6):
(requiring a jetway to even access the door)

no Airstairs then? I know with our 737s getting on without a jetway was easy, basically just go to the little panel below and slightly aft of the main entry door, pull and twist the handle, then hold it there until the stairs are done...


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2833 times:



Quoting Oasis (Thread starter):
Do big passenger jets have locks on the doors? Locks that require a key to be opened from the outside.

I've seen locks for the baggage compartments on the IL-62.

The three times I had to turn that airplane we had to wait for the navigator to come down and open the bin up for us.



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User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1480 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2819 times:



Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 8):
no Airstairs then? I know with our 737s getting on without a jetway was easy, basically just go to the little panel below and slightly aft of the main entry door, pull and twist the handle, then hold it there until the stairs are done...

At one time yes, WN did have integral airstairs on the -200's and -300's but they are no longer in use (they were removed).



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2797 times:



Quoting COSPN (Reply 5):

The AN-12 and IL 76 have a big lock and big key...

Any pics.

Todays modern day Airliners do not have a lock on the door.Out here gate security is adequate & for longer duration storage a security seal is in place,if broken,necessitates a thorough security check.

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2571 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 21 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

Nope no locks. Feel like stealing an airliner? Get a job on an airport with that gives you ramp clearance. On the right airport you just might get away with it. As Massport has increased the screening on airport employees I've taken a closer look at what a terrorist with an airport ID could do. Personally I think that on many nights it is possible to steal an airliner. The ones that are remote parked are the most at risk.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 1 hour ago) and read 2540 times:



Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 12):
Personally I think that on many nights it is possible to steal an airliner. The ones that are remote parked are the most at risk

Out here.All Aircraft on Servicable duty are security guarded at halts.
Long storage Aircraft have obstructions in their path.

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

I photographed an MD-87 that once belonged to Austrian Airlines...although it was converted to a private ship, the door lock installation appeared to be a factory installation...j

User currently offlineAvioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2502 times:



Quoting Soon7x7 (Reply 14):
I photographed an MD-87 that once belonged to Austrian Airlines...although it was converted to a private ship, the door lock installation appeared to be a factory installation...j

One of the reasons you'll hear from past DAC employees for their demise is that Douglas would option anything for any operator on any aircraft.
There are, indeed, a number of aircraft out there that had door locks retrofitted during the finishing/delivery phase of construction at Long Beach.
I've seen a few overseas delivered T-tails with car type lock mechanisms integral to the external door handles and maintenance access doors.
I recall one aircraft that went to Brazil that had these locks installed on every door on the plane, even the water service door.
 Smile



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User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2466 times:



Quoting Avioniker (Reply 15):

I had to shoot a lear45 for a client and the pilot went home and took the key with him so obviously i couldn't get in to shoot the interior. Well I have about thirty keys on my key ring, the one that opens my boat, opened the learjet...good thing I owned a boat!...was able to complete job and get paid...j


User currently offlineAvt007 From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 2132 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2457 times:



Quoting Soon7x7 (Reply 16):
the one that opens my boat, opened the learjet...

When I worked on a lot of private aircraft, my toolbox key would open 90% of all Cessnas.
As for bigger stuff, I recall one F28 that had a modified access door that covered the controls for the cabin door. It was setup for a padlock, but in reality it would have been very easy to open with handtools. Most security setups I've seen are not geared towards theft, but rather stopping smugglers from using an unsuspecting company to transport contraband.


User currently offlineBlackProjects From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 756 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

Museum Aircraft have Locks and Keys but that is about it.

The rest of the worlds civil aircraft do not require Locks and Keys Normaly as they are out of Reach Behind Fences and Security Systems that some Fedral Prisons would Envy.


User currently offlineOldtimer From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 191 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2112 times:

Bae146/RJ aircraft carried on a DeHavilland tradition of having locks on all doors and access to avionics bay, cargo bays etc. Same on the Comet and 125 series aircraft (all the same key number as well) Nobody seemed to lock them though except maybe the military.


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19924 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

I read somewhere that Boeing delivers each new A/C with a key, out of tradition. However, A/C, of course, do not have keyholes.

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