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OHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 27
Posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4086 times:

I was walking around HEL the other day waiting for my connection to KUO when I saw this:

He then went closer:

and then disappeared but I did not see if he went inside the engine.

So my question:

Is it possible to go inside?

[Edited 2008-06-28 04:21:30]

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DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16811 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4051 times:

What an AMAZING picture.

Really shows you the size of those things.

WILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8473 posts, RR: 78
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4037 times:

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Quoting OHLHD (Thread starter):
Is it possible to go inside?

Oh yeah it is possible easily and have a nice walk in there. From outside you can see a small area where the engines gets a little smaller in the diameter. That's about where the engine actually starts. There is the fan area and the rest of it is being. I think it's about 5 meters until the fan blades are there.
But a nice view from up there. Was standing there myself once cloudnine

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Tristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3689 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

Is there no access door into the MD11 intake?. On the L1011 we had a small hatch so we could go in there from the engine bay. If you were brave, and had sticky soled shoes, you could then run up the S duct to the intake-

SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 71
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4005 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 3):
If you were brave, and had sticky soled shoes, you could then run up the S duct to the intake-

Did it have vortex generators like the 727 did?

Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.

WILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8473 posts, RR: 78
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3986 times:

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Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 3):
Is there no access door into the MD11 intake?. On the L1011 we had a small hatch so we could go in there from the engine bay. If you were brave, and had sticky soled shoes, you could then run up the S duct to the intake-

You can open the engine cowling somehow.

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[Edited 2008-06-28 07:31:43]

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474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3961 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 4):
Did it have vortex generators like the 727 did?

Lockheed does not use vortex generators, they design the aircraft to work properly without them.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 5):

You can open the engine cowling somehow.

Opening the cowls does not provide access to the fan.

Quoting OHLHD (Thread starter):
He then went closer:

and then disappeared but I did not see if he went inside the engine.

So my question:

Is it possible to go inside?

What the mechanic is going into is the inlet duct, the engine is located aft of the letter "R" in the first picture. Like I said above the only way to get the the fan blades is through the inlet duct.

Avioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3954 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 6):
the engine is located aft of the letter "R"

Actually the "R" is on the Fan Cowl covering the Fan/Low Pressure Compressor Module of the engine. The next cowl aft of the "R" is the Reverser Half.

The Tristar needed the door in the S duct because it wasn't too safe to go in from the inlet and worm your way down the incline. Too steep and often a bit too slick. I'm afraid I've left a bit too much skin in too many doing FOD checks over the years.

I definitely prefer the DC/MD inlet inspection for ease and view

Smile

One may educate the ignorance from the unknowing but stupid is forever. Boswell; ca: 1533

Dispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1185 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

You could do that in ENG 2 on a B727 as well - there was an access door from the bay with the aft airstairs. There is a light (S/Os aux panel I believe) called ENG 2 ACCESS DR, lit in red, when that door access door is open.

Nobody screws you better than an airline job!

Tristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3689 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

Quoting Avioniker (Reply 7):
I definitely prefer the DC/MD inlet inspection for ease and view

Maybe if you had a cherry picker.
But on the Tristar you only needed a set of steps, pax steps would do on an outstation. You could open the access panel in the lower left cowl and climb in, then open the S duct access door and climb in there. No need to borrow special equipment.

KFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3262 posts, RR: 33
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3531 times:

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 9):
Maybe if you had a cherry picker.
But on the Tristar you only needed a set of steps, pax steps would do on an outstation. You could open the access panel in the lower left cowl and climb in, then open the S duct access door and climb in there. No need to borrow special equipment.

Wow...any pics in the access or inside the S duct itself?

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474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3523 times:

This is the best I could come up with in short notice:

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OzTech From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3429 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 6):
Lockheed does not use vortex generators, they design the aircraft to work properly without them.

Very, very quick and smart reply my friend.. made me laugh...

No defect too big, no defect too small, nothing in the log --- No defect at all !!

DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16811 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3428 times:

Quoting Avioniker (Reply 7):
Too steep and often a bit too slick.

Why is it slick? I figure it would be pretty much scoured clean by the airflow.

OHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 27
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

Many thanks for your reply!

Learned something new again! Smile

474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3282 times:

Quoting OzTech (Reply 12):
Very, very quick and smart reply my friend.. made me laugh...

May have made you laugh, but its true. I worked on Lockheed aircraft 37 of my sixty two years and know of only one instance were they used vortex generators. L-1011-500's built for British Airways have vortex generators on the outboard wing. The CAA insisted on them even though Lockheed showed the CAA that they were not required during flight testing. No other L-1011 has them.

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Stratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1613 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3270 times:

One thing you could count on in a DC-10 or MD-11 if there was a problem it was going to be on the #2 guaranteed.

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OzTech From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3198 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 15):
The CAA insisted on them even though Lockheed showed the CAA that they were not required during flight testing. No other L-1011 has them

Thay just about sums up the insular mentality of the CAA... Thank god for EASA....

No defect too big, no defect too small, nothing in the log --- No defect at all !!

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