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Can He Go In? ( MD-11 That Is )  
User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5083 times:

I was walking around HEL the other day waiting for my connection to KUO when I saw this:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l193/OHLHD/IMG_0385.jpg

He then went closer:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l193/OHLHD/IMG_0387.jpg

and then disappeared but I did not see if he went inside the engine.



So my question:

Is it possible to go inside?  

[Edited 2008-06-28 04:21:30]

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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19509 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5048 times:

What an AMAZING picture.

Really shows you the size of those things.


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5034 times:
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Quoting OHLHD (Thread starter):
Is it possible to go inside?

Oh yeah it is possible easily and have a nice walk in there. From outside you can see a small area where the engines gets a little smaller in the diameter. That's about where the engine actually starts. There is the fan area and the rest of it is being. I think it's about 5 meters until the fan blades are there.
But a nice view from up there. Was standing there myself once  cloudnine 

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User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3999 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5004 times:

Is there no access door into the MD11 intake?. On the L1011 we had a small hatch so we could go in there from the engine bay. If you were brave, and had sticky soled shoes, you could then run up the S duct to the intake-

User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5002 times:



Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 3):
If you were brave, and had sticky soled shoes, you could then run up the S duct to the intake-

Did it have vortex generators like the 727 did?



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8991 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4983 times:
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Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 3):
Is there no access door into the MD11 intake?. On the L1011 we had a small hatch so we could go in there from the engine bay. If you were brave, and had sticky soled shoes, you could then run up the S duct to the intake-

You can open the engine cowling somehow.


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[Edited 2008-06-28 07:31:43]


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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4958 times:



Quoting SlamClick (Reply 4):
Did it have vortex generators like the 727 did?

Lockheed does not use vortex generators, they design the aircraft to work properly without them.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 5):

You can open the engine cowling somehow.

Opening the cowls does not provide access to the fan.

Quoting OHLHD (Thread starter):
He then went closer:

and then disappeared but I did not see if he went inside the engine.

So my question:

Is it possible to go inside?

What the mechanic is going into is the inlet duct, the engine is located aft of the letter "R" in the first picture. Like I said above the only way to get the the fan blades is through the inlet duct.


User currently offlineAvioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4951 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 6):
the engine is located aft of the letter "R"

Actually the "R" is on the Fan Cowl covering the Fan/Low Pressure Compressor Module of the engine. The next cowl aft of the "R" is the Reverser Half.

The Tristar needed the door in the S duct because it wasn't too safe to go in from the inlet and worm your way down the incline. Too steep and often a bit too slick. I'm afraid I've left a bit too much skin in too many doing FOD checks over the years.

I definitely prefer the DC/MD inlet inspection for ease and view

 Smile



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User currently offlineDispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1249 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4712 times:

You could do that in ENG 2 on a B727 as well - there was an access door from the bay with the aft airstairs. There is a light (S/Os aux panel I believe) called ENG 2 ACCESS DR, lit in red, when that door access door is open.


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User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3999 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4699 times:



Quoting Avioniker (Reply 7):
I definitely prefer the DC/MD inlet inspection for ease and view

Maybe if you had a cherry picker.
But on the Tristar you only needed a set of steps, pax steps would do on an outstation. You could open the access panel in the lower left cowl and climb in, then open the S duct access door and climb in there. No need to borrow special equipment.


User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3301 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4528 times:



Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 9):
Maybe if you had a cherry picker.
But on the Tristar you only needed a set of steps, pax steps would do on an outstation. You could open the access panel in the lower left cowl and climb in, then open the S duct access door and climb in there. No need to borrow special equipment.

Wow...any pics in the access or inside the S duct itself?



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4520 times:

This is the best I could come up with in short notice:

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User currently offlineOzTech From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4426 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 6):
Lockheed does not use vortex generators, they design the aircraft to work properly without them.

Very, very quick and smart reply my friend.. made me laugh...



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19509 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4425 times:



Quoting Avioniker (Reply 7):
Too steep and often a bit too slick.

Why is it slick? I figure it would be pretty much scoured clean by the airflow.


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4405 times:

Many thanks for your reply!

Learned something new again!  Smile


User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4279 times:



Quoting OzTech (Reply 12):
Very, very quick and smart reply my friend.. made me laugh...

May have made you laugh, but its true. I worked on Lockheed aircraft 37 of my sixty two years and know of only one instance were they used vortex generators. L-1011-500's built for British Airways have vortex generators on the outboard wing. The CAA insisted on them even though Lockheed showed the CAA that they were not required during flight testing. No other L-1011 has them.


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User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4267 times:

One thing you could count on in a DC-10 or MD-11 if there was a problem it was going to be on the #2 guaranteed.


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User currently offlineOzTech From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4195 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 15):
The CAA insisted on them even though Lockheed showed the CAA that they were not required during flight testing. No other L-1011 has them

Thay just about sums up the insular mentality of the CAA... Thank god for EASA....



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