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Window Blinds Up For T/o And Landing  
User currently offlineHiggi91 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 54 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8842 times:

hey, quick question

why do window blinds have to stay open/up for takeoff and landing?

Dan.

(sorry if this has been asked before but i did do a search)


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User currently offlineThreeFourThree From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8833 times:

Thousand billion times asked before,
It's so you can see what's happening outside like if there is a fire and to adjust their eyes to the dark or brightness


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6381 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8793 times:

Interestingly enough,

My first encounter with this was my first trip on a non-US airline, SQ . I've never encountered this on US carriers before, either that or American flight attendants just aren't as uptight about enforcement of this particular rule  Wink



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8772 times:
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Same reason why cabin lights are turned off for take off or landing, irrespective of the time of day.


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User currently offlineAvioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8750 times:

It's also required so rescue personnel can see into the cabin should the situation arise.
 Smile



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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8672 times:



Quoting KELPkid (Reply 2):
American flight attendants just aren't as uptight about enforcement of this particular rule

It is not an FAR in the US. Only exit windows MUST be up. However some airlines include it as a policy. Mine does as does Continental if I am remembering correctly. If the airline includes it in their manual then the FAA expects it to be enforced.


User currently offlineHiggi91 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8664 times:

thanks guys for answering

[Edited 2008-07-14 15:37:29]


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User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8568 times:



Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 5):
Only exit windows MUST be up.

Mmmmmmm...nope. Airline policy. First thing I do when I'm riding in back is close the window shade, regardless of what row I'm in.

Exit row window shade must be capable of being opened though, i.e. not stuck in the closed position.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8548 times:



Quoting Ralgha (Reply 7):
First thing I do when I'm riding in back is close the window shade, regardless of what row I'm in.

Any reason why you choose a window seat in the first place,If you don't utilize the view access.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17038 posts, RR: 66
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8531 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):

Quoting Ralgha (Reply 7):
First thing I do when I'm riding in back is close the window shade, regardless of what row I'm in.

Any reason why you choose a window seat in the first place,If you don't utilize the view access.

ZING!



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User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8486 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
Any reason why you choose a window seat in the first place,If you don't utilize the view access.

I choose it so I can lean against the wall while I sleep.

[Edited 2008-07-15 08:52:07]


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8378 times:



Quoting Ralgha (Reply 10):
I choose it so I can lean against the wall while I sleep.

what about Taxi out & Landing  Smile
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8328 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):
what about Taxi out & Landing

I'm asleep then too!  bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineWESTERN737800 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 693 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8310 times:

NWA flies from MSP to RAP (Rapid City,SD). Ellsworth AFB lies 6 mi NW of RAP. The RAP airport tends to blend in with the terrain. The rwy at Ellsworth sticks out like a sore thumb. A few years back a NWA crew landed at Ellsworth by mistake. The passengers were told to keep the blinds shut. Now when you check in w/ approach they tell ya that the base lies 6 mi N NW of the RAP airport.


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6381 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8296 times:



Quoting WESTERN737800 (Reply 13):
The passengers were told to keep the blinds shut. Now when you check in w/ approach they tell ya that the base lies 6 mi N NW of the RAP airport.

By whom, the flight crew, or the AFSP (Air Force Security Police?). Kinda wondering how an air force base handles an aircraft landing NORDO (No Radio) at the field...I wonder if they dialed the RAP tower and did a landline relay to talk with the flight crew when that happened, or if the NW crew did a mad scramble through their Jepp charts for the VHF tower frequency at Ellsworth  Wink



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User currently offlineWESTERN737800 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 693 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8281 times:



Quoting KELPkid (Reply 14):
By whom, the flight crew, or the AFSP (Air Force Security Police?). Kinda wondering how an air force base handles an aircraft landing NORDO (No Radio) at the field...I wonder if they dialed the RAP tower and did a landline relay to talk with the flight crew when that happened, or if the NW crew did a mad scramble through their Jepp charts for the VHF tower frequency at Ellsworth

I'm not exactly sure how they handled it. I'd guess that upon roll-out seeing the B-1s, now knowing they were in the wrong place they would quickly find the tower freq. I think that RAP tower had a good visual on em and told Ellworth twr. I'm sure that there was a vechicle at the aircraft (it was an A319) as soon as it came to a stop. I did a search on their local newspaper but couldn't find anything, it seems like word about it sure got around quick.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25288 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8270 times:



Quoting WESTERN737800 (Reply 15):
I did a search on their local newspaper but couldn't find anything, it seems like word about it sure got around quick.

News item re the NW incident.
http://articles.latimes.com/2004/jun/22/nation/na-pilots22


User currently offlineWESTERN737800 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 693 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8240 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16):
News item re the NW incident.
http://articles.latimes.com/2004/jun...ots22

Thanks. I've flown into RAP since my private pilot training and went to airshows at Ellsworth since my childhood days, so I never really thought about it. However I can see if I'd never flown in to the area, pop out of a cloud & see a runway I usually say hey there it is and land. A friend told me about turning on a final in a Cessna 150 (didn't land) realized where he was and poured the coals to it and went to RAP. I think he was on solo x- country (ppl training) at the time. I'm sure smaller planes probaly do it more than we hear about.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25288 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8220 times:



Quoting WESTERN737800 (Reply 17):
I'm sure smaller planes probaly do it more than we hear about.

Dozens of airliners have done it also. This site has a good list of "wrong airport" landings.
http://www.thirdamendment.com/wrongway.html


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8209 times:



Quoting Ralgha (Reply 12):
I'm asleep then too!

You seem like sleeping beauty,Hopefully you get up after chocks on  Smile
Don't the FA ask you to raise the shades ever on T/O or Landing.

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 8186 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 19):
You seem like sleeping beauty,Hopefully you get up after chocks on
Don't the FA ask you to raise the shades ever on T/O or Landing.

Yep! I've never had any FA ask me to raise a shade in any phase of flight or taxi.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 8183 times:



Quoting Ralgha (Reply 20):
Yep! I've never had any FA ask me to raise a shade in any phase of flight or taxi.

Lucky Pax.....Bad FA  wink 
regds
MEL



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