Ag92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 22784 times:
Just a simple question, if you put your life to it so you are only into becoming an airline pilot without any outside disturbances except for your summer/christmas holidays, how long do you think it would take to become a fully qualified pilot
Amen on both accounts!!! It seems that we try and justify all the red tape, but indeed it can get burdensome at times.
And to the OP: Indeed you can do anything from a year like BA777 or five like lowrider . Although I am a relative newcomer to this entire learning to be an airline pilot biz, observations tell me to take it at a pace where you can be successful and learn the craft well and as stated so many times on this site to HAVE FUN or the entire quest of glories, red tape and all will be fruitless.
Don't you want to hang out and waste your life with us?
Still beats nine-to-fives, SlamClick.
For me, two years af advanced maths to prepare the competitive examination for the Air academy, then three and half years for the licence. Joined an airline and was line-qualified six months later. Never looked back since.
Nowadays, the two first years still help and youngsters either join the air academy or one opf the cadet pilots schemes. Eighteen to twenty four months later, the join an airline and are released on the line after six months. Total time : Two to two-and half years, plus holidays and waiting for trainer's availabilities.
Please note thatif the trend continues, these youngsters should qualify for a left-hand seat after some seven years.
Of course I am talking about situations outside the US.
WESTERN737800 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 689 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 22573 times:
It just depends on where your at and what the economy is doing. With the US economy taking a nosedive these days its gonna take longer. I have a friend who just turned 30. He graduated high school in '97. Then he went to one of the bigger flight schools. He then flew charter & frieight (mostly piston twins). He then got hired by Skywest (the regionals were hiring like mad then). Now he's flying freight as an FO for a 747 operator. So it just depends on where you go and lots of variables get involved. The most important thing I can say is find something else you like for a profession, with all of the airline cutbacks these days there are lots of pilots looking for work. Good luck.
Soku39 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1797 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 22546 times:
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 6): ...and you're going to step right into a job flying passengers.....???? You need to add that time in as well.
EMBQA aviation in the rest of the world is completely different than the US. I'm sure you're familiar with the usual US route where you go into the military or fund your own training, then flight instructor, make connections and get lucky. Well in Europ, Asia, S. America, Africa... pretty much anywhere else that they have airlines you get hired, and go from 0 flight time directly to an A320 (or whatever) anywhere from a year and a half to 3 years, getting paid (well) every step of the way. This is done by airlines having their own fleets of props/learjets or whatever, as well as outsourcing that training to flight schools in the U.S. Getting hired for lufthansa/BA/Air India takes quite a bit of apptitude, but there is nowhere near the heartbreak and the long road that becoming a pilot in the U.S. or Canada is, they either want you, or they don't.
Slam I have all the respect for you that I could have for someone whom I've never personally met, but surely you don't think the wannabes/regional guys on this board are complete morons for not wanting to be accountants and construction workers. I'm having quite the time simply being a flight instructor, and will stick with the flying as long as I can.
I was just questioning "just 18 months from walking into a classroom on day one knowing nothing about flight, to sitting in the right seat flying passengers". That sounds really short....I remember while in AP school.. the flight guys were just reaching Instructor ratings at the 12 month mark with very limited duel time....
and sure... with this second round of down times in my career I've though to myself, if I was not doing this.. what would I be doing..? I have no clue.. I like what I do.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 22501 times:
The thing I'll throw in, you may take the fire-hose route to training (ATP's program), or you may enjoy it and take a brisk (yet manageable) approach to it at a maw and pop flying club like I did, but the bottom line...enjoy it while it's there.
Alot of pilots, myself included, spent so much time wanting to be done and be in the right seat of a jet, that you never end up smelling the roses until it's long past, and you're sitting in your hotel room in some dank city, wishing you were out put-putting around on a glorious x/c in an Arrow on a nice sunday. Then again it's always a fond memory you can look back on while you're enjoying the fruits of your hard labor.