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Who Assigns Parking Lots?  
User currently offlineOD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

My plane arrived to DXB at around 21.30 local time, and left the apron at 22.30. They parked it at a remote gate, although more than half of the contacts gates were empty. It was a 1 hr stop only, and I'm sure nothing changed, i.e., the empty half remained empty!

On what basis do airports assign parking positions? Wouldn't it be cheaper for the airport to utilize the bridge rather than a couple of busses to move 150 pax? Larger aircraft, A340 and A300's where parked next to us as well.

I know this airline uses contact gates at DXB because I saw that before.

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OD-BWH


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User currently offlineShamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1596 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 2237 times:

Stands are allocated by the airport authority, they will have people whos job it is to do this.

Stands vary depending on airline requests, not sure which airline you flew with, they will vary becase of costs etc.


User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

They're allocated by the ground controller (or at least they are in Copenhagen, I've seen it because I have a "contact" In the ramp tower at CPH  Wink)

He's allocated us at a gate closer to baggage that isn't in the usual SAS block just for us, that's how nice he is  Silly but other than that, I don't know how they're given out.


User currently offlinePihero From France, joined Jan 2005, 4392 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2022 times:
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Quoting OD-BWH (Thread starter):
They parked it at a remote gate, although more than half of the contacts gates were empty.

You're opening a can of worms here !
Normally, gate allocation is one of the duties of the airport authorities... and depends on what the airline asked for -for a fee-. A contact gate is worth a lot of money, a remote stand a lot less, even with the bus services...etc...
At an airline hub, the airline terminal services do the allocation, the main object to facilitate transits and optimise turn-arounds. It's a fascinating job which needs the talent of a world-class juggler, especially when there are some unforeseen delays, weather events or industrial actions. That service can make or brake the airline day-to-day ops, believe me. The gate allocation details are sent through a computer link to the ATC ground controller, and to the aircraft via ACARS. Generally, that information complicates the ATC workload as aircrews will be requesting the most favourable runway, exit, taxiways...etc... the best ATCOs would have anticipated these demands.
But not always.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

Airports Authority decides that out here.They try to club the airlines together where possible to enable Mx work better at night halts & during the day as near as to the arrival as possible to reduce Pax discomfort.

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Haven't seen any American responses.

I worked the ramp in ATL for a couple years with one of the larger regionals there (guess) and on our company radio on company frequency, we would call our tower guys and it seemed to me like they decided where our birds parked.

Anyone care to clarify?



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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3982 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

There is a big difference between the USA and Euope. In Europe nearly all the aprons and gates are owned by the airport, and gates are allocated by the airport. There are exceptions, i.e. at LHR T5 BA staff allocate gates.
In the USA most gates and a lot of the ramps are owned by the airlines. So it is usual in the US for airline staff to allocate gates. In fact often the ATC ground control will pass the aircraft to the Airline Ramp Tower for final taxying and parking.


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1909 times:

At SNA, since the entire terminal is common use, the gate assignments have been delegated to AA ops. They're pretty good in that they will keep the airlines on the same half of the terminal, rather than make people walk the length of the terminal.


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User currently offlineWn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1031 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1803 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 6):

In the USA most gates and a lot of the ramps are owned by the airlines. So it is usual in the US for airline staff to allocate gates. In fact often the ATC ground control will pass the aircraft to the Airline Ramp Tower for final taxying and parking.

This is how it works with US in PHX. Their ops tower controls the ramp for all of T4 North.

For US ops specifically, there is a gate manager who coordinates with fleet scheduling, maintenance, and the ramp controllers (who in turn coordinate with ground control) to figure out which planes go where.



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