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SID's And STAR's  
User currently offlineRunway 24R From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1133 times:

Why do Airfields have SID's and STAR's?
Who agrees and promulgates them?

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User currently offlineATRpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 933 times:

SID's and STAR's exist primarily to cut down on frequency congestion and pilot/controller workload. If everyone is playing from the same sheet of music and knows what is going to happen, then it makes life simpler for everyone involved.

Example of a clearence without SID's and STAR's from memphis to st. louis:
KMEM direct MAW direct CGI CGI 335 degree radial to QBALL then STL 156 degree Radial to CHIKN direct KSTL.

Example of a clearence with SID's and STAR's (same route):
Memphis 5 depature MAW QBALL 3 arrival KSTL

See the differance? Lots easier for both parties involved.

The FAA decides which airports will have SID's and STAR's, then after a period of industry review they are put into use.

Oh yeah.. almost forgot! SID's are called DP's now (Departure Procedures). Old habits die hard.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 921 times:

...how *convenient* STARS make it for you when they tell you to hold at TRAKE or QBALL....

 


User currently offlineATRpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 876 times:

Oh the nightmares!!!!

You know, I only seem to hold when its VFR on a Sunday... what a silly place STL is!


User currently offlineJ32driver From United States of America, joined May 2000, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 850 times:

STICKBOY!!!! Is that you????? Silly little ATR pilot... go hold at TRAKE with captain honeywell deferred. Welcome to my world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HA HA HAAAAAA.

User currently offlineATRpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 841 times:

What?!!

Hold without an autopilot????

You gotta be kidding!

STICKBOY


User currently offlinePilot1113 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (14 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 817 times:

Damn it all! Just as I was beginning to learn about instrument flying.

It's like the time when I tried to file a flight plan for a PA161-28 (Piper Warrior). The FSS guy didn't know what I was talking about because they changed it to P28A! Glad I was notified about that one... I only found out about that after reaching another FSS guy.

Oh well... Have a good one!

- Neil Harrison


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