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User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1067 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3499 times:

Hi all,

Just noticed that the Saha Air 707s seem to have very irregular windows on the port side. Is there any reason for this? Specifically, the 'double' window just over the registration and the 'bunches' under the titles (which could be, like on some 737s, for aircon/electrics, I suppose).

Here's the picture that drew my curiosity:


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Cheers,

Toni


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25291 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

The slight window spacing differences under the titles are at the edges of the main-deck cargo door (it's a 707-320C convertible passenger/freighter). Look at any other photos of 707-320Cs and you'll see the same thing.

All other windows look normal except for that strange "double" window near the rear. I have never seen anything like that before on a 707. It also appears in other A.net photos of the same aircraft.


User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3477 times:

The specific aircraft was delivered to the Iranian Air Force, and originally used as a tanker-transport.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day ago) and read 3425 times:

The Double Window aft seems interesting.any Idea why the wider visability was needed?
regds
MEL.



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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 3337 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3):
any Idea why the wider visability was needed?

...and how they fit it in between the fuselage frames?

From looking at the database:

- the other two Saha Air 707-320s also have this double window
- at least one of them has the double window on the other side of the fuselage as well
- not all IIAF 707s had them installed, only the last few aircraft


LY744.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 3292 times:



Quoting LY744 (Reply 4):
...and how they fit it in between the fuselage frames?

You mean the Stringers,right?
That can be eaisly accomplished by a structural mod.

I guess it looks like they needed a wider view for some reason at that location through which there would have been a station using some equipment.

regds
MEL



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User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

Fuselage frames is the correct term.
The larger windows were for observers for the hose/drouge refueling system installed on each wing tip.


User currently offlineIrish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 973 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 3199 times:

All of which goes to prove, I think, that the aircraft (serial 1002) depicted in these photos is a 707-3J9C and not a -370C, as it has been recorded in this site's database and elsewhere for many years:


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 3118 times:



Quoting 411A (Reply 6):
The larger windows were for observers for the hose/drouge refueling system installed on each wing tip.

Can you elobrate on this pls.?
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25291 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 3107 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
Quoting 411A (Reply 6):
The larger windows were for observers for the hose/drouge refueling system installed on each wing tip.

Can you elaborate on this pls.?

It was originally equipped with both a tail-mounted refuelling boom (you can see the remnants of that in the first photo) as well as wingtip-mounted hose-and-drogue refuelling pods. The larger windows were presumably to make it easier to monitor the latter operation.

Another aircraft of the same model with the original refuelling equipment, and the large window.


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Photos of an Australian Air Force 707 modified with the wingtip hose-and-drogue equipment. I think the last of those RAAF 707s (ex-Qantas) were only recently retired.


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User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1067 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 6 hours ago) and read 3103 times:

Wow, thanks to all for clearing that one up!

What an amazing modification; indeed, shame we don't see more of them! I've started to notice how tiny modern a/c windows are after a flight on a Tu134, so flying that Saha 707 would be something of a dream come true!

Cheers,

Toni



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User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6724 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

There's nothing new.....

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/90675/



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User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 697 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

Hello all,

Here's the seat your all talking about, its 29A.

This is me on a flight from KIH-THR in Feb 2007....my 3rd Saha 707 flight in as many days...

rgds

TUGMASTER



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Seat 29A on a SAHA B707


[Edited 2008-08-26 05:01:40]

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2624 times:



Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 12):
Here's the seat your all talking about, its 29A.

Nice catch.
Pity the edit though.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 697 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2620 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
Pity the edit though.

If you've seen me, i think you'll find it's an improvement Big grin


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