Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5671 posts, RR: 29 Posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 13905 times:
I was reading an article about flying the 727 in the new issue of Airways and there was a mention of there being six pieces of wood in a 727. Where are the pieces of wood and what are they used for? Do other modern jetliners have any wooden parts?
Tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80 Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 13822 times:
Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter): I was reading an article about flying the 727 in the new issue of Airways and there was a mention of there being six pieces of wood in a 727. Where are the pieces of wood and what are they used for?
I have no idea, but I'd strongly suspect there's at least some balsa-core composite somewhere in there.
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5526 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 13741 times:
Sometimes there would be plywood in the cargo bay.
Some of the older floor panels were made from two sheets of aluminum, with a balsa wood core.
Rampkontroler From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 859 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 13716 times:
The article reads:
"There is no better way to learn systems and procedures than instructing. But it's important to remember that just because you know the thread diameter and metallurgy of the four bolts that secure the engines to the fuselage, your students don't. Jokingly inquiring about the only letter that doesn't appear on a factory-stamped engineer's panel, or how many pieces of wood there are on a 727 is fine. But we've all suffered through instructors who lecture simply to hear themselves speak."
I assume that's the wood reference you were talking about, and I would like to know the answer as well. All I can picture is maybe a dowel inside of some tubing somewhere, if indeed he wasn't just joking!
CAL764 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 366 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 13702 times:
Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1338 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13491 times:
Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1338 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13365 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7): I doubt it. Possibly wood-grain vinyl floor covering. I've seen that on several aircraft.
KL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1573 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13280 times:
If im not mistaken the part under engine number 2 where the aircraft can skid on when it over rotates is made out of wood. I think I read this somewhere that even the original B747's had these.
Aogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 933 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 13040 times:
Perhaps its between the legs of the captain? (the control column.....get your mind outta the gutter!!!)
The compressible tail skid on a B727 is definitely NOT made out of wood.....at least all of them that I'm not familiar with.
Critter From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 267 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12934 times:
If I am not mistaken......I believe that there are several phenolic wood cable guides in the main gear wheel wells. These guides keep the control cables from rubbing and fraying on other metal structures.
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8739 posts, RR: 52 Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12898 times:
Quoting Aogdesk (Reply 10): Perhaps its between the legs of the captain? (the control column.....get your mind outta the gutter!!!)
Nope, that's a magnesium casting.
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Spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3250 posts, RR: 14 Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12858 times:
Come on, everybody knows it's the engine pylons
Yep, solid basswood!
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Acidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1855 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12809 times:
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Does the crash axe in the cockpit have a wooden handle? There's one of the 6!
777DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 124 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12809 times:
nose gear door core
wing fence core x2
FE table top
main gear inspection port covers in cabin x2
Aogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 933 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12807 times:
I was going to go with the phenolic pulleys and fairleads too........and then I remembered that those sturdy JT8 fan blades are made of the finest teak.........seriously.
Ken777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7450 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12789 times:
Quoting Acidradio (Reply 14): Does the crash axe in the cockpit have a wooden handle? There's one of the 6!
And maybe the inserts that hold the bathroom tissue roll in place.
777DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 124 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12783 times:
777DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 124 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12784 times:
the list i posted is the common answer, the nose gear doors and wing fences are balse wood cored the other 3 are plywood
Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1594 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12692 times:
While not on the 727, many years back, I was around a 707-321 that was being broken up in ACY and I found it interesting that on this particular a/c, the entire ventral fin on the aft belly fuselage was mostly made of wood...
Yegger From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 66 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12567 times:
There was a wooden piece that was used to lock the handle of rear cabin door (from the inside) to the rear stairs. This was used so that it was difficult to enter a parked/out of service/overnighting B727 aircraft (you couldn't simply walk up the stairs and go in) from the ground without using a lift truck or other vehicle to access the main doors.
727forever From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 783 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12235 times:
Quoting KL808 (Reply 9): If im not mistaken the part under engine number 2 where the aircraft can skid on when it over rotates is made out of wood. I think I read this somewhere that even the original B747's had these.
Nope sorry. It was definately metal.
On the door to the fuel dump panel there are two little wooden strips on the inside of the door that when slammed closed push all of the dump switches closed. I can also confirm that the Engineers table top was wood.
FrmrCAPCADET From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1501 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 12023 times:
I have seen parts made for a modern fighter made from wood - it appeared to be a spacer to go between several other parts. I am totally guessing as to it function.
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HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11934 times:
Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter): I was reading an article about flying the 727 in the new issue of Airways and there was a mention of there being six pieces of wood in a 727.
Where was this Article printed.
Its tough to believe,considering the Fire resistant capabilities needed for Commercial Airliners.
Only thing could be the Six Chocks for the Three Landing gears if carried on board
regds
MEL
26 Hypersonic: Are you implying that there might be Captains out there who have 'got wood' whilst flying? LOL (mind definately in rude mode !!)
27 NEMA: Yep, that was my first thought, i remember early 747 documentaries saying that wooden planks were fitted under the tail area in case of tail end drag
28 Falstaff: The USA, The author had flown as FE, FO, and captain, on Orion, RC, and NW 727s. According to the article the answer to that is "J".
29 Moose135: I wouldn't be surprised if they attached wooden skid plates during test flights, especially for something like minimum unstick speed tests.
30 HAWK21M: Didn't the Author mention the location.Is there any way the autor could be contacted? regds MEL.
31 SlamClick: well... IF it was actually wood that was used it was only for the VMU tests. I've seen film of Boeing products actually having their tail dragged on
32 Falstaff: He mentioned various locations while flying 727s for RC and NW in the USA.
33 474218: Wood floorboards would never pass the required "burn thorough test". Will maybe if they were wet with ...
34 EMBQA: Not wood...just a poly laminate look a like.
35 Tdscanuck: They were a lot laxer on the 727 than they are now. Also, things outside the pressurized shell and contained (like landing gear door cores) aren't re
36 HAWK21M: Was an Email/Ctc printed on the Article? I too found it surprising if wood was used on the floor. regds MEL
37 Fsnuffer: The pilot and copilot's golf clubs in the hold [Edited 2008-08-30 07:05:51]
38 Atlturbine: The only thing I know for sure is the main landing gear down lock inspection hole cover in the mid cabin area. I do not recall what kind of wood it wa
40 Starlionblue: Yeah but even woods are made of metal or composite nowadays.
41 Triebwerk: What about the 6 pencils in the cockpit? They're a wood and graphite composite.
42 TWAL1011727: I was shown the 2 pieces of wood on a Delta MD88. They were on the control columns were they go thru the cockpit floor. It is approximate horseshoe sh
43 Mayor: We had that, too, in SLC but we made it ourselves and it definitely wasn't an actual part of the air craft and wasn't supposed to stay on board, alth
44 EcuadorianMD11: Tiger Woods + family on a jaunt? Presumably travelling business class........... Ecuadorian MD11
45 CosmicCruiser: I believe there was a piece of wood on the GEN reset panel (if I even remember that correctly) on the aft CB panel for the F/E. I remember this questi
46 JETPILOT: The nose wheel brake consists of 2 blocks of 4X4 wood blocks in the wheel well ceiling. When the gear is retracted the tires rub against the wood bloc
47 ZANL188: I've had a book since I was a kid called "747 Story of the Boeing SUPER JET" copyright 1970 Latter half of the book describes testing and early servi
48 TimePilot: Does the 727 use wood-burning engines? 6 pieces would be hard for international flights though, I think. What about in the galley, for special smoked
49 HAWK21M: Was the brake snubbing pads of wood.However I thought the B727 had NLG brakes. regds MEL.
50 411A: It's all very simple. The wooden bits were installed on PanAmerican aircraft only (initially, but used later on other aircraft), and on the older airc
51 HAWK21M: What about the Flame retardant/resistant properties of these wood pieces. regds MEL.
52 EcuadorianMD11: We have a contradiction here..........if Atlturbine is right, then the total number of pieces of wood must be uneven, right? Regardless of the amount
53 HAWK21M: The B737 had a wooden cover for MLG down & locked viewing in flt.Was the B727 similiar? regds MEL.
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