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Runway Lights, How Often Do They Change Them?  
User currently offlineAircanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1247 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

Hello all

I was wondering how often do the airport crew change light bulbs on the runways and taxi ways? There are so many lightbulbs to change must take awhile to do them and when do they change the lightbulbs? All lights are left on 24/7. Can you imagine changing all the runway and taxi way lights. I wonder how they change the light bulbs that are in the pavement, unless the cover light lids can be taken off easily? Those light bulbs must be very expensive to replace? Too many light bulbs to change eh?


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User currently offlineFXramper From United States, joined Dec 2005, 4196 posts, RR: 86
Reply 1, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

When a bulb burns out, its gets changed.

User currently offlineAAR90 From United States, joined Jan 2000, 2794 posts, RR: 41
Reply 2, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

Airport operations folks do "runway checks" (and taxiway checks) multiple times each day/night and lighting is one of the things they are specifically looking for. When a light is "inop" they send maintenance crews out to fix the problem. Normally the first "fix" is to change the bulb.... usually less than 5 minutes for in-ground lights.


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States, joined May 2000, 9307 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

LAX has a program where they are replaced either;
1) when reported out
2) each runway is closed overnight every few weeks where lights are replaced in sequence (i dont know how long each last) and things as the light covers are also cleaned and sometimes replaced as they do crack.


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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States, joined May 2004, 2223 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2113 times:



Quoting Aircanada014 (Thread starter):
All lights are left on 24/7.

No they arent.. They're on from dusk/dawn, and in lower visibility situations.

Quoting FXramper (Reply 3):
When a bulb burns out, its gets changed.

Pretty much.

User currently offlineMir From United States, joined Jan 2004, 10852 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2045 times:



Quoting Aircanada014 (Thread starter):
All lights are left on 24/7.

They're not on during the day when the weather is good.

Quoting Aircanada014 (Thread starter):
I wonder how they change the light bulbs that are in the pavement, unless the cover light lids can be taken off easily?

They can be. It's a pretty quick job. Also, it is possible to have one or two lights out along a runway - there's a requirement for how many you have to have operational percentage-wise.

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User currently offlineJetJeanes From United States, joined Oct 2004, 1187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2002 times:

Mem has guys in trucks that ride around everyday checking and changing, i assume because of Fedex and Northwest..


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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1981 times:

At my airport, lights are changed when they burn out ... or when they're unlucky enough to get eaten by the snowblower in the wintertime.

The new taxiways built as part of a runway extension project have LED lights. It's interesting to watch them turn on when switching on the field lights on CTAF when tower is closed, because the LED lights come on INSTANTLY while the rest of the halogen lights lag behind a few seconds.


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User currently offlineTravaz From United States, joined Jun 2001, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

I worked at GCN (in the summer it used to be the second most bisy airport in AZ) and that was one of my responsibilities. Every morning before sunrise and every evening after sunset the ops person would do a light check. If a light was out they would tie a red ribbon on it and I would go out and change it during the day. These were standard lights on the yellow stick. it took about 30 seconds to put a new bulb in. This was from 1982 until 1986. Was a fun job.

User currently offlineFredT From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

In addition, flight inspection will check the configuration, alignment etc of the lighting systems at the airports when they stop by... at least in my neck of the woods. A faulty bulb is easy to see on a ground check, misaligned lights decidedly less so.


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User currently offlineAAH732UAL From United States, joined Mar 2008, 1024 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

They will also be changed if a new approach built requires better lights.


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User currently offlinePGNCS From United States, joined Apr 2007, 949 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1776 times:



Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 6):
Mem has guys in trucks that ride around everyday checking and changing, i assume because of Fedex and Northwest..

It's because it's required under the guidelines of their airport certification.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 25884 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1521 times:

Lights are on only in conditions of low visibility.Hence the life of the bulbs would be increased.
They would be replaced when scheduled airport checks finds them not functioning.
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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States, joined Feb 2006, 1010 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1487 times:
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Lights are also only on on the Active Runway. This helps as well to conserve bulb lights. If i'm not mistaken the RVR readings come from runway edge lights so they defiantly need to be in working order.


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States, joined Nov 2005, 3228 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (1 month 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1361 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 13):
so they defiantly need to be in working order.

(OT) I know it's a simple typo that anyone could have made (and I'm totally not picking on you, FDJ), but the result is quite funny. (/OT)


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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3086 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (1 month 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1259 times:
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At home it appears they also do it as they burn out. Runway checks are done a couple times per day and I'm guessing they'd just take note of any lights that aren't working and then send someone out with a replacement. I could be wrong though.


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User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States, joined Mar 2004, 822 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 month 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1239 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 13):
If i'm not mistaken the RVR readings come from runway edge lights so they defiantly need to be in working order.

The runway edge lights can be used to get a rough estimate of the prevailing RVR, however, the "official" RVR numbers come from instruments placed along the edge of the runway that measure the visibility. I don't have my reference books handy, so explaining how they do it is a bit beyond my expertise, but I'm sure someone will jump in with an explanation.

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User currently offlineBond007 From United States, joined Mar 2005, 4351 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1089 times:



Quoting JBo (Reply 7):
The new taxiways built as part of a runway extension project have LED lights.

Yes, it won't be long before the position of "airport visibility architect" is a thing of the past ....

Quoting AAR90 (Reply 2):
Airport operations folks do "runway checks" (and taxiway checks) multiple times each day/night and lighting is one of the things they are specifically looking for. When a light is "inop" they send maintenance crews out to fix the problem. Normally the first "fix" is to change the bulb.... usually less than 5 minutes for in-ground lights.

At some of the larger airports, there are crews that specifically just check and change lights each night .... since as I understand, there are always some to change.


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User currently offlineNorthwest727 From United States, joined Jul 2005, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 836 times:

It depends on the airport. When I interned at KCLE, being an FAR part 139 airport...as soon as those lights burned out, they were replaced almost immediately. However, at the current airport where I am at (a regional airport), they change the bulbs when they feel like it. Literally.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 25884 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 830 times:



Quoting Northwest727 (Reply 18):
However, at the current airport where I am at (a regional airport), they change the bulbs when they feel like it. Literally.

Shouldn't there be some set regulatory supervised standards to be followed?
regds
MEL.


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User currently offlineBond007 From United States, joined Mar 2005, 4351 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 824 times:



Quoting Northwest727 (Reply 18):
However, at the current airport where I am at (a regional airport), they change the bulbs when they feel like it. Literally.



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 19):
Shouldn't there be some set regulatory supervised standards to be followed?

Well, it depends on what is meant by 'regional' airport. Any airport that has scheduled air carrier service must be Part 139 certified, AFAIK.

The standards regarding lighting (FAA anyway), depends on the type of lighting and approaches. Even with Cat III runways, you can get away with 5% of the edge lights being out, for example... and 15-25% of threshold/edge lights can be out for VFR and non-precision.


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User currently offlineNorthwest727 From United States, joined Jul 2005, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 month 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 754 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 19):

I really wish the FAA would ge