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Ground Fire Extinguisher For Engine Startup  
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5894 times:

What is the requirement at your airports for a Ground fire Extinguisher [22.5kgs] to be present during engine startups & manned by personnell?
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User currently offlineNKP S2 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5861 times:

We have one handy if we're starting a new engine, or any work requiring a "wet motor" leak check. If any excess fuel is present in the tailpipe following a "wet" motor, despite 2 subsequent "dry" motors, we'd like to have one ready to shoot of the usual 1st engine start characteristic 8 ( or so ) foot flame gets out of hand.

User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1147 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5804 times:

I'm not sure if it's a legality here in Canada, but I always see CO2 extinguishers around the ramp.

I recall earlier that a ramp guy sprayed a dry chemical extinguisher into an engine which he thought was on fire, when really it was just a wet start. It was a 6 figure bill to say the least.



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User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5796 times:

The only time I see them in regular use in the US is on a military base. Don't recall ever seeing them in Canada or Europe.


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1937 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5702 times:
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One is required to be at (without the excat details of the rule regarding feet apart) every gate and aircraft staging area regardless of the MTC to be performed on the aircraft. Also tho be noted as well you are not required to use it you are only required to call the authorities and assist with clearing the area.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5700 times:

What about during pushback starts.Would it [Grd fire extinguisher] need to be towed along?
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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4069 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5687 times:

We do not require any extinguisher at the gate for routine departures. It has been proved that the airport fire service response is fast enough for any fire. It is much safer to have the fire service arrive, than to let some unskilled ramper use a fire extinguisher.
But all our push back tugs have small bottles on them, but that is for equipment fires, not aircraft engine fires.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5678 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 5):
What about during pushback starts.Would it [Grd fire extinguisher] need to be towed along?

Not here in the States. We've got LARGE (150-300 lb) extinguishers at gates (not EVERY gate, but within a set distance), but they don't go along with pushback.

During an engine start, the companies I've been involved with just have the procedure to blow the engine fire bottles, I believe. They're halon- no damage done.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5626 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 6):
It has been proved that the airport fire service response is fast enough for any fire. It is much safer to have the fire service arrive, than to let some unskilled ramper use a fire extinguisher.

Out here Mx does the supervision of Engine start procedures on ground including headset communication with the Flight deck.In case of a tailpipe fire needing ground intervention,a fire extinguisher would be needed.fire services would take longer to arrive.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 7):
During an engine start, the companies I've been involved with just have the procedure to blow the engine fire bottles, I believe. They're halon- no damage done.

Interesting differences to proceedures worldwide.
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MEL



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