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User currently offlineWolfpack From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1614 times:

How does the U.S. allow other airlines to fly into U.S. air space not being sure of how safe those aircrafts are.
Can you imagine one of them droping in the middle of Miami or Atlanta? Would that need to happen to then make changes? I am not refering to big operators such as BA,JAL,Quantas just smaller ones from Central, South America and the former U.S.S.R. where resources might be tough. Please expressyour thoughts about this topic.

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User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1581 times:

Most countries with a civil airworthiness authority like the US FAA have agreements in place with other countries to recognize the Certificate of Airworthiness issued by the other country as a flight authority. (a C of A is one type of flight authority not to be confused with Air Traffic Control)

Occasionally when a foreign country fails to meet the minimum requirments of the agreement or if there is suspicion of unsafe airworthiness practices, the flight authority can be cancelled. This happened to Columbia a few years ago after the crash of an Avianca airliner.

User currently offlineRyu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 512 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (14 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

Civil aircraft of various Communist and ex-Communist countries, and other "Special" countries, are classified as "Special" by NORAD, and are given special scrutiny when they are flying within the US airspace system.

Reference: http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/norad/ins10015.htm

User currently offlineSabenapilot From Belgium, joined Feb 2000, 2748 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (14 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1546 times:

Do you know what ICAO is?

One of the key points of ICAO is that all memberstates have to accept that flights by other ICAO memberstate airlines can freely overfly their territory.
The only restriction they are allowed to make is to create corridors and no fly zones, but then these have to apply for all companies (to avoid protectionism).
To make sure this global system of free passage works with a miminum of safety, all ICAO memberstates have to make sure their local companies meet certain specific international standards.
If for instance Belize lives up to these international minimum requirements, then the FAA can not refuse carriers based in this South American country, or they'd violate ICAO priciples, which in turn could lead to ICAO revocing US carriers the right to overfly other countries....

BTW, Wolfpack, you apparently see foreign carriers overflying the USA as a potential safety risk, basically because they are not resorting under the FAA.
For most Asian and European carriers this is irrelevant since their countries of origine all have authorities similar to the FAA. For other carriers (from the 3rd world) you might be correct, but, have you ever thought about the fact that US carriers overflying a foreign country also involve a safety risk to that country?
I mean, Lockerbie for instance was an attack on US interests, but a lot of British people on the ground were also killed/injured in that attack.
You see, we all have to accept some kind of risk, or we simply couldn't fly anymore.
That's why the FAA has to accept foreign carriers in their airspace, just as other countries accept US planes.

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